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'The Marvels' has the worst opening weekend ever for any MCU film at $47M

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Re: 'The Marvels' has the worst opening weekend ever for any MCU film at $47M

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Post by weare138 »

dijit wrote: post #4

They keep making boring content and using progressiveness as a cover, IE: if you find the stories bland and the characters having no depth then you must be racist, homophobic or misogynistic. But I think a larger cohort of people have realised that, no, actually people were not slamming these movies because everyone is anti-progressive. The only issue now is that Disney owns half of all media, so if you like movies o…

They keep making boring content and using progressiveness as a cover

It has nothing to do with 'progressiveness'. Wall St. ate Hollywood. All the major studios are run by investors who reduced everything to a game of metrics. Major studios don't 'create' movies anymore. They manufacture them. The executives running these companies have simply lost sight of the forest for the trees and are now at the throwing poop at a wall and seeing what sticks phase.

Re: 'The Marvels' has the worst opening weekend ever for any MCU film at $47M

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Post by OrvalWintermute »

jwnin wrote: post #5

This was better than Thor4 or Quantumania. Good action, chemistry, and a decent story. Disney+ probably isn't helping. not being able to do promo work due to the strike didn't help, either.

> This was better than Thor4

Chris Hemsworth

Christian Bale

Tessa Thompson

Jaimie Alexander

Taika Waititi

Russell Crowe

Natalie Portman

Shoot... they even cut scenes with talents like Jeff Goldblum (Grandmaster), Peter Dinklage (Eitri) and Lena Headey.

Not remotely comparable.

Re: 'The Marvels' has the worst opening weekend ever for any MCU film at $47M

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Post by kdwikzncba »

dijit wrote: post #4

They keep making boring content and using progressiveness as a cover, IE: if you find the stories bland and the characters having no depth then you must be racist, homophobic or misogynistic. But I think a larger cohort of people have realised that, no, actually people were not slamming these movies because everyone is anti-progressive. The only issue now is that Disney owns half of all media, so if you like movies o…

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Re: 'The Marvels' has the worst opening weekend ever for any MCU film at $47M

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Post by knock_down_11 »

Seems like even the most brainless consumers are starting to give up on the creatively bankrupt leeches across media. I’ve noticed that certain video game franchises that banked on increasingly garbage franchise milking are starting to falter as well.

Re: 'The Marvels' has the worst opening weekend ever for any MCU film at $47M

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Post by zug_zug »

dijit wrote: post #4

They keep making boring content and using progressiveness as a cover, IE: if you find the stories bland and the characters having no depth then you must be racist, homophobic or misogynistic. But I think a larger cohort of people have realised that, no, actually people were not slamming these movies because everyone is anti-progressive. The only issue now is that Disney owns half of all media, so if you like movies o…

Eh, I mean it's hard to say if there's any correlation between bad movies and progressive movies. Some of the best movies recently are progressive (everything everywhere all at once, barbie). Some recent shows from Disney are terrific too (Andor).

Some terrible shows aren't progressive at all.

There are definitely cases that people morally blame audiences as a false cover for a bad movie, but there are also people who can't enjoy great movies if they can find any progressive meaning in them and make a career about ranting about it.

Re: 'The Marvels' has the worst opening weekend ever for any MCU film at $47M

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Post by redundantly »

OrvalWintermute wrote: post #12
jwnin wrote: post #5

This was better than Thor4 or Quantumania. Good action, chemistry, and a decent story. Disney+ probably isn't helping. not being able to do promo work due to the strike didn't help, either.

> This was better than Thor4 Chris Hemsworth Christian Bale Tessa Thompson Jaimie Alexander Taika Waititi Russell Crowe Natalie Portman Shoot... they even cut scenes with talents like Jeff Goldblum (Grandmaster), Peter Dinklage (Eitri) and Lena Headey. Not remotely comparable.

Despite having all of that talent Thor 4 was a dud of a movie.

Re: 'The Marvels' has the worst opening weekend ever for any MCU film at $47M

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Post by rayiner »

kdwikzncba wrote: post #13
dijit wrote: post #4

They keep making boring content and using progressiveness as a cover, IE: if you find the stories bland and the characters having no depth then you must be racist, homophobic or misogynistic. But I think a larger cohort of people have realised that, no, actually people were not slamming these movies because everyone is anti-progressive. The only issue now is that Disney owns half of all media, so if you like movies o…

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There’s lots of reasons movies can be bad, but focusing on woke box checking instead of entertainment is a recurrent reason. It’s like Kamala Harris. Yes, there were unpopular vice presidents before, but she’s bad for the specific reason that Biden selected her to check demographic boxes, despite her terrible 2020 primary campaign.

Re: 'The Marvels' has the worst opening weekend ever for any MCU film at $47M

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Post by jmprspret »

kjreact wrote: post #7
dijit wrote: post #4

They keep making boring content and using progressiveness as a cover, IE: if you find the stories bland and the characters having no depth then you must be racist, homophobic or misogynistic. But I think a larger cohort of people have realised that, no, actually people were not slamming these movies because everyone is anti-progressive. The only issue now is that Disney owns half of all media, so if you like movies o…

Sorry, but season 2 of Loki was a nonsensical mess of a show. They used up most of their best ideas in season 1. I think it’s time for Disney to give the MCU a rest and come back to it in a decade or two.

They simply make way too much money off of Marvel from the fanboys, etc to care about whether the movies are actually good. This may have been a flop, but there are a plethora of trash marvel movies that have made a profit, they will definitely keep milking this

Re: 'The Marvels' has the worst opening weekend ever for any MCU film at $47M

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Post by MBCook »

I really like the Marvel stuff but they have two problems that are well known at this point:

Quality and volume.

Some of their recent efforts, like Loki season two and (apparently) The Marvels are quite good.

The problem is we already got burned by a number of poor entries like Thor: Love and Thunder and The Eternals (I mean, wow). It seems rare I hear about a good movie these days, even when they make one, but the bad ones get mentioned a lot. Or the ones that people just dislike for whatever ideological reason like She-hulk: Attorney at Law.

Much like with Star Wars they put things out so fast that it feels like you’re always trying to keep up. Even if DC and others didn’t keep trying to make superhero movies they would have oversaturated the market alone.

Combine those and it can feel like you’re always trying to keep up with a bunch of bad stuff in hopes of finding the rare good one. It’s exhausting.

And all of that is just Marvel stuff. But they’re also up against great TV, great video games, and everything else going on in the world. Trends away from wanting to go to movie theaters.

They drove the audience away with too much cash grabbing. Pure and simple.

I 100% reject the nonsense “go woke go broke” arguments, everything that’s going on can be explained without that perfectly, and there is no actual evidence to back it up.

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