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The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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https://archive.today/89rNF

I haven't been able to access archive.today in a good long while. Cloudflare's challenge page lets me solve a captcha, but doesn't actually remember that I've solved it. So I'm in an endless loop of challenge pages. If you're wondering, I'm on Firefox connected thru Google Fiber. I've tried disabling Enhanced Tracking Protection, but all that does is make it so I don't have to solve a captcha. I still get the endless…

Broken for me too. Firefox but through Xfinity. Edit: also broken on Chrome.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. I'm glad I figured this one out before getting married. They have no real value. They do look nice and are great for grinding metal. But they aren't rare. The value has always been completely managed. And the notion that you spend a lot on a ring is so insidious. It rains diamonds on Neptune.

Rains diamonds on neptune?

I mean...maybe: https://www.space.com/diamond-rain-atmosphere-uranus-neptune

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. I'm glad I figured this one out before getting married. They have no real value. They do look nice and are great for grinding metal. But they aren't rare. The value has always been completely managed. And the notion that you spend a lot on a ring is so insidious. It rains diamonds on Neptune.

Rains diamonds on neptune?

Seems like a reasonable conjecture that stretches the meaning of the word rain.

Naomi Rowe-Gurney: So I mentioned methane being the reason why these two planets are blue. Well, methane has carbon in it and that carbon can occur by itself and also be crushed by the immense pressures that happen, like, deep in the atmosphere, so much deeper than the levels that I look at. And inside the planet, when it gets really hot and really dense, these, these diamonds form and accumulate, and then they become even heavier. And that means that they kind of rain down in the atmosphere. But it’s not the rain that we see here because these pressures are extreme, and you’ll never be able to get there as a human. So even if these diamonds do exist, we would never be able to go and grab them. So… unfortunately.

https://www.nasa.gov/podcasts/gravity-assist/gravity-assist-...

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

#15

https://archive.today/89rNF

I haven't been able to access archive.today in a good long while. Cloudflare's challenge page lets me solve a captcha, but doesn't actually remember that I've solved it. So I'm in an endless loop of challenge pages. If you're wondering, I'm on Firefox connected thru Google Fiber. I've tried disabling Enhanced Tracking Protection, but all that does is make it so I don't have to solve a captcha. I still get the endless…

Works fine in Brave in MacOS 12.7.1.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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post #3

I would like to take this moment to thank https://diamondssuck.com/ for preventing me from buying my wife a diamond, and getting her a much prettier moissanite instead. It's been on hn's front page several times.

This was written by the same guy who wrote The Personal MBA, one of the best books I read as a teenager. Small world!

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

#18

https://archive.today/89rNF

I haven't been able to access archive.today in a good long while. Cloudflare's challenge page lets me solve a captcha, but doesn't actually remember that I've solved it. So I'm in an endless loop of challenge pages. If you're wondering, I'm on Firefox connected thru Google Fiber. I've tried disabling Enhanced Tracking Protection, but all that does is make it so I don't have to solve a captcha. I still get the endless…

DNS related. Cloudflare, in particular, gets fed incorrect results from archive.ph. I'm not sure they're the only ones, I've also had loops when using 8.8.8.8. But in any case, try a different resolver and it'll probably clear up the captcha loop.

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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https://archive.today/89rNF

I haven't been able to access archive.today in a good long while. Cloudflare's challenge page lets me solve a captcha, but doesn't actually remember that I've solved it. So I'm in an endless loop of challenge pages. If you're wondering, I'm on Firefox connected thru Google Fiber. I've tried disabling Enhanced Tracking Protection, but all that does is make it so I don't have to solve a captcha. I still get the endless…

This happens if you use 1.1.1.1 as your DNS resolver, the result of a long-running dispute between Cloudflare and Archive.is[1]; searching HN for “archive cloudflare” will get you lots of discussion.

As I understand it: the technical cause is that the Archive.is authoritative DNS server refuses to respond correctly to requests without EDNS subnet information, and Cloudflare’s resolver refuses to send requests with it. (Cloudflare says this is for privacy reasons, and I believe Archive.is says their response is for legal reasons.) The captcha loop seems to be a recent development; apparently[2] it’s not actually from Cloudflare, just styled to look like it.

[1] https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38174302

Re: The diamond world takes radical steps to stop a pricing plunge

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https://archive.today/89rNF

I haven't been able to access archive.today in a good long while. Cloudflare's challenge page lets me solve a captcha, but doesn't actually remember that I've solved it. So I'm in an endless loop of challenge pages. If you're wondering, I'm on Firefox connected thru Google Fiber. I've tried disabling Enhanced Tracking Protection, but all that does is make it so I don't have to solve a captcha. I still get the endless…

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