Oh, the answer to that is easy. If the person poured you a drink, brought food to your house, parked your car or took your order at a table and brought your food, base is 15%. If they were bad at it, lower, if they went above and beyond, more. Thems the rules, they've always been the rules, that's the social expectation. Anyone brow beating you into some other set of rules is trying to fleece you. They're saying "you're meek and you'll take it." The proper response to someone treating you like that is anger, not shame. You should feel absolutely no tinge of guilt.
People no longer know how much to tip
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Re: People no longer know how much to tip
#182Oh, the answer to that is easy. If the person poured you a drink, brought food to your house, parked your car or took your order at a table and brought your food, base is 15%. If they were bad at it, lower, if they went above and beyond, more. Thems the rules, they've always been the rules, that's the social expectation. Anyone brow beating you into some other set of rules is trying to fleece you. They're saying "you…
I am more strict: good 15,ok 10,bad 0
Re: People no longer know how much to tip
#183Easy. If they ask you to tip by default - don’t tip.
Re: People no longer know how much to tip
#184Yesterday I had lunch at a Shake Shack. Humans don't take orders there any more; you place your order at a self-serve touchscreen kiosk. As I finished placing my order, I was prompted to leave a tip; 10% was the default and you had to press a button to change it. Who am I tipping, exactly? The kiosk? Myself? No one had even made eye contact with me up to this point. I have ordered fast food from a computer. When I ha…
> Who am I tipping, exactly? The staff who make pretty crap money to do a pretty thankless job who opened the restaurant, kept it clean + stocked, kept the bathrooms cleaned, make the order, serve the order, help you if something is wrong, help keep condiments/drink machines working, etc. I agree with this logic we should always tip everybody we interact with $1 and that isn't the standard. It's a weird thing. Tippin…
> The staff who make pretty crap money to do a pretty thankless job
How’s that my problem, exactly?
Re: People no longer know how much to tip
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't agree with this way of looking at things. It isn't a thankless job; they're getting paid. It's a different argument if they're not getting paid enough, but it seems backwards to pass on the responsibility of properly compensating them to the customer. The customer should pay for the product. The employees should be paid by the employer. This whole tipping nonsense has been exacerbated by the move to POS syste…
> It isn't a thankless job What experience do you have working this kind of job / interfacing with people who work these kinds of jobs? More often than not in my experience, they are extremely miserable/unhappy (probably as a result of making less than $40k/yr). They don't have the skillsets/education/opportunities to get ahead. Customers constantly yell at them. Telling them "be happy for what you have/how much you…
If the business can't make the math work, then it should shut down.
Otherwise raise the prices and find a point at which it can run.
The customer is paying the same regardless so why not just build it into the pricing?
Re: People no longer know how much to tip
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't agree with this way of looking at things. It isn't a thankless job; they're getting paid. It's a different argument if they're not getting paid enough, but it seems backwards to pass on the responsibility of properly compensating them to the customer. The customer should pay for the product. The employees should be paid by the employer. This whole tipping nonsense has been exacerbated by the move to POS syste…
> It isn't a thankless job What experience do you have working this kind of job / interfacing with people who work these kinds of jobs? More often than not in my experience, they are extremely miserable/unhappy (probably as a result of making less than $40k/yr). They don't have the skillsets/education/opportunities to get ahead. Customers constantly yell at them. Telling them "be happy for what you have/how much you…
I’ve worked 5+ minimum wage jobs and worked once at a restaurant.
I’m not saying anyone should be happy; you should reread my message. It isn’t a thankless job because *you’re getting paid*.