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If you used Omegle for more than 30 seconds, you'd know it was filled with sexual predators exposing themselves to children. I'm surprised it lasted this long. I'm sympathetic to the creator, I don't think tools should be banned because there are bad users, but Omegle's user base has its reputation for a reason.
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Who is "we" who are afraid to educate our kids on this stuff? Adults are former children, raised by parents who are also former children. Basically there's no reason for you to focus your sight like a laser pointer on the parents, because it's all a big system in a closed loop, and picking out superficial criteria like age and parenthood as sole indicators about who the blame should go to is primitive. Sex is easy, a…
>Adults are former children, raised by parents who are also former children. Basically there's no reason for you to focus your sight like a laser pointer on the parents, because it's all a big system in a closed loop, Society and norms change. My "former children" were whipped by their parents, they didn't pass that down to me (but I was also raised partially by grandparents, who did the same thing). "we" decided spa…
You can watch documentaries on big scale disasters, and while in isolated cases you can blame few specific parties for failing on their responsibilities and therefore it's "their fault", the truth is that disasters occur when many many layers of a system fail, and eventually the whole construction collapses at some point, causing an unmitigated disaster.
In another comment I discussed how we could make a safe Omegle with identity confirmation and AI monitoring and so on. That would help. Not fix all problems, but help significantly. Parenting also helps, and so on. It's not either or, but "and". We can try to sort things by priority, but this is often crude and based on our limited understanding of what is most important.
Also saying "it's the parents" is particularly fruitless, because "parents" is not a specific entity, like government regulatory institutions or large businesses are, which are controlled centrally and therefore they can be designed, engineered, and monitored for specific outcomes.
When we say "the parents" everyone nods along and says "oh yes, absolutely" and nothing follows from that. Everyone believes themselves a good parent who's doing the right things, and to whom bad things won't happen. And when they happen, they see the problem outside themselves. It's also particularly cruel to pin blame on parents who have one or two children, and purely randomly their child may be taken out by freak circumstances. And then what? Make more children?
While a corporation may be involved in hundreds, thousands, millions of incidents, and they can and SHOULD learn from them and strive to minimize them. They have the scale to monitor outcomes, adapt for better outcomes and then monitor that change.
We could say "but OMEGLE was not a large organization with large staff able to engineer their outcomes". Well, then maybe they should've not taken on this project. Going viral by doing the minimum is easy especially when luck is on your side. But doing things RIGHT takes effort, money, time and people.
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>Adults are former children, raised by parents who are also former children. Basically there's no reason for you to focus your sight like a laser pointer on the parents, because it's all a big system in a closed loop, Society and norms change. My "former children" were whipped by their parents, they didn't pass that down to me (but I was also raised partially by grandparents, who did the same thing). "we" decided spa…
My general idea is that systems should be analyzed holistically and picking out simple categories of parts within the system to assign blame to is refreshingly basic, but also not helpful. You can watch documentaries on big scale disasters, and while in isolated cases you can blame few specific parties for failing on their responsibilities and therefore it's "their fault", the truth is that disasters occur when many…
Personally my goal isn't to solve the entire problem. Because humans have a great talent of breaking even the most secure solutions. And on the internet that simply means "don't go to secure website, lure children to seedy website". So the problem occurs again and it's harder or impossible to target the seedy website (you know, unless parents properly parent. You know, the unproductive solution I keep bringing up). It may be more holistically safe but on a micro level that parent still has to suffer and that child is still traumatized. But you exhausted your easy target to sue.
In some views, Omeagle may be that seedy website as it. It wasn't this hyper popular trillion dollar company that entrenched itself in the recesses of the internet, Alexa ranking last month was in the top 700. gen alpha may not even know what people are talking about when hearing the name. But it was too honest and good hearted in intentions of and no good deed goes unpunished. So here we are.
>When we say "the parents" everyone nods along and says "oh yes, absolutely" and nothing follows from that.
Sure because "everyone" is in fact not "everyone" ajd certainly not any important lawmakers. On a micro level that solution is some sort of therapy to heal and maybe counseling to figure out how to parent for this stuff online if it wasn't taught in school (and for reference, my mid 00's middle school was already teaching about social media safety. This isn't that unheard of for millennial/Gen Z folks to learn). I can't make that decision for a single parent. Large initiatives include awareness, tools, and general tips for parents.