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Search is the opposite of discoverability for all the reasons covered in this thread and in the OP.
The OP doesn't make this absurd claim (search is how you discover things, it can't be the opposite)
> [Search] kinda works when you generally know what you need or how a feature you want could be called. But really not when this is your first rodeo.
The search tool for GIMP is Google. How do I draw a rectangle? Google brings you to https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-using-rectangular.html which starts with "GIMP is not designed to be used for drawing." and then goes on which "However, you may create shapes by either painting them using the technique described in Section 14.1, “Drawing a Straight Line” or by using the selection tools" At that point you realize th…
Just to contrast the negativity here I'd like to say that GIMP is great software, and I really appreciate all the hard work that has been put into it over the years. It's powerful, easily scriptable, and I'm eternally grateful for everyone's contributions to the project. https://www.gimp.org/docs/
If Blender could radically update their UI and UX after 25 years of the initial conception, I feel like any (FOSS) project could do it too, no matter how many options and technical details the software has.
All these programs like GIMP, Blender, Dune, should split into two. There should be a library that has the functionality and data structures to manipulate data. The UI should be a separate project with different people. There could be multiple GUI's for the same project or same GUI framework for multiple projects.
The problems with Gimp have nothing to do with not having a sufficient UI paradigm to contain Gimp's oh-so-precious functionality; it's that the project leadership refuses to consider that tue esoteric universally-loathed UI paradigms they came up with might be worse than the prevailing conventions .
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> my first guess is usually wrong I had the same experience, and searching for answers using keywords was not very effective. There are so many features that the terms I guessed were often a different concept in GIMP, leading to a bunch of irrelevant results. I have found that ChatGPT solves this problem very well, so I don't even try searching first anymore. I can verbosely explain what I am trying to accomplish, an…
> ChatGPT told me ChatGPT didn't tell you. It scrapped an answer off a forum and regurgitated that to you after applying a language transform. It's second result on DDG for "gimp fill tool border" -- https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/42621/hard... .
> [Search] kinda works when you generally know what you need or how a feature you want could be called I mean, that's how I feel using the GIMP menus. I never know where anything is, and my first guess is usually wrong.
The worst is Inkscape. They somehow manage to put every option in the last place I look.
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Nobody is stopping you from contributing. A lot of FOSS projects could do a lot of amazing things if they had enough people who "just do the work".
"Nobody is stopping you from contributing" is such a classic deflection. I don't know why people still rely on this old copy-pasta. First of all, who says I want to contribute? Maybe I'm perfectly happy using Photoshop. Is my opinion invalidated simply because I'm not a GIMP user? That's illogical. Secondly, actually, a lot of people would stop me from contributing. I just made the case that only a full rewrite would…
My point exactly, that's why nobody "just does the work"
> Do you think that the GIMP maintainers are going to be happy if I drop a full rewrite on them?
I think they'd be impressed that you managed to rewrite the entire codebase that fast.
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Universal UI search is great, and at this point it should be present in all but the simplest applications. I first saw it introduced in Google Docs, and it's precisely for things you suspect exist, but it's not even remotely clear which menu, submenu, or dialog it's in. (Apple OS Settings is another great example of it.) E.g., you want to apply a hanging indent in Docs? Just type "hanging" into the menu search, and i…
> But it bothers me that even in Docs, almost nobody knows about menu search because it's hidden under the "Help" menu, rather than being a nice prominent rounded search box in the upper-right corner like you'd expect. They changed it recently. Now it’s a nice prominent rounded search box in the upper-left corner.
But it does turn into a magnifying-glass icon even on smaller screens. I just never thought to click it -- I would have guessed it would bring up a zoom menu or something. (The ever-present confusion around when magnifying glasses mean search, find, or zoom...)
It's progress!