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Or Paint.NET, which does maintain aspect ratio on shift.
I switched to macOS several years ago and the only thing I still miss from Windows is something like Paint.NET.
What's wrong with Krita?
Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
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Re: Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
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Universal UI search is great, and at this point it should be present in all but the simplest applications. I first saw it introduced in Google Docs, and it's precisely for things you suspect exist, but it's not even remotely clear which menu, submenu, or dialog it's in. (Apple OS Settings is another great example of it.) E.g., you want to apply a hanging indent in Docs? Just type "hanging" into the menu search, and i…
macOS has had the ability to search menus for what seems like a decade. It should be a feature of the toolkit, not something apps need to implement themselves. This doesn’t extend to other UI elements (like System Prefs/Settings), but I agree that it should (and again, should be a toolkit feature).
> macOS has had the ability to search menus for what seems like a decade.
Wow, TIL. Talk about a hidden feature.
So it turns out it's under the "Help" menu, and it just says "Search". I had always assumed that this searched help topics, not menus.
But it's also pretty miminal, seemingly without support for synonyms or features inside of dialog boxes -- e.g. if you type "pref" it won't find "Settings". It also doesn't have a keyboard shortcut to trigger it (like Docs).
So I think there's still a long way to go to make it a central UX feature.
Re: Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
macOS has had the ability to search menus for what seems like a decade. It should be a feature of the toolkit, not something apps need to implement themselves. This doesn’t extend to other UI elements (like System Prefs/Settings), but I agree that it should (and again, should be a toolkit feature).
> macOS has had the ability to search menus for what seems like a decade. Wow, TIL. Talk about a hidden feature. So it turns out it's under the "Help" menu, and it just says "Search". I had always assumed that this searched help topics, not menus. But it's also pretty miminal, seemingly without support for synonyms or features inside of dialog boxes -- e.g. if you type "pref" it won't find "Settings". It also doesn't…
Cmd-Shift-/ triggers the macOS help search in any normal app. Easy as pie.
Re: Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
#154Just to contrast the negativity here I'd like to say that GIMP is great software, and I really appreciate all the hard work that has been put into it over the years. It's powerful, easily scriptable, and I'm eternally grateful for everyone's contributions to the project. https://www.gimp.org/docs/
Have you actually been using it?
I use it regularly, but my use case doesn't really extend beyond compositing images. Works great for me though, my only complaint is the startup time.
Re: Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
#155Universal search in UI is cool, and I’m all for it, but it shouldn’t be the only/primary way of accessing tools as tool discoverability is very low. The author tries to deal with this by putting the a menu next to a search bar and putting hints in the bottom menu (which I don’t think would really work here, as raster tools are less selection-specific than 3D tools). Search fixes the speed-of-access issue, but doesn’t…
My problem with GIMP is that there's too many ways to access controls and some controls only appear in certain menus. You've got the iconographic tool picker which has submenus on right-click for some tools. Then there's the classic menu ribbon at the top which has most things you expect. Then there's the right-click context menu inside the canvas that has a subset of all other menu items. And then you have inscrutable hotkeys. Some actions are reasonable, others are not. There's too many hotkey layers with modifier keys and some actions which should be on the same layer are not.
Then there's the escape key. Sometimes it does what you want, other times it just gives you an error ding with no other information.
The core problem with GIMP is that the interface is bad. No two ways about it, it's just bad. It needs a total redesign, but that would be unacceptable as it would alienate evryobe who has already learned it.
As an editing program, GIMP does everything you need and then some. It's fully featured and functional, just not usable.
That said, GIMP is still my only choice for photo editing. All the other options are worse in different and mostly worse ways.
Re: Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
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It would not shock me to learn that GIMP has been a multi decade study to find out how bad a UX has to be before the FOSS community starts to care.
GIMP has one of the best user interfaces of all community driven open source software. I frankly can't think of any that are better, now that Firefox followed Chrome in hiding all its most important features.
Um... what? That would be terribly unfortunate for FOSS but thankfully it's not true.
Re: Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
#157If Blender could radically update their UI and UX after 25 years of the initial conception, I feel like any (FOSS) project could do it too, no matter how many options and technical details the software has.
Blender is also really careful to NOT needlessly break existing workflows and also doog-foods their own software through having their own studio. This is in stark contrast to the vast majority of UI-redesigns which tend to break existing workflows, remove features and are just ego-driven projects. You need to be a user of your own software.
GNOME devs shaking right now. In fact, they may remove a few features they don't care about out of spite.
Re: Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
#158The search tool for GIMP is Google. How do I draw a rectangle? Google brings you to https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-using-rectangular.html which starts with "GIMP is not designed to be used for drawing." and then goes on which "However, you may create shapes by either painting them using the technique described in Section 14.1, “Drawing a Straight Line” or by using the selection tools" At that point you realize th…
If you want that, use kolourpaint
Re: Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
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> macOS has had the ability to search menus for what seems like a decade. Wow, TIL. Talk about a hidden feature. So it turns out it's under the "Help" menu, and it just says "Search". I had always assumed that this searched help topics, not menus. But it's also pretty miminal, seemingly without support for synonyms or features inside of dialog boxes -- e.g. if you type "pref" it won't find "Settings". It also doesn't…
Cmd-Shift-/ triggers the macOS help search in any normal app. Easy as pie.
Again, TIL. Thank you!
Why on earth isn't that keyboard shortcut shown in the search box, the way every other menu item with a keyboard shortcut has it displayed?
It boggles my mind how hidden this all is.
All these years, I could be picking menu items with my keyboard instead of my trackpad? What the hell, Apple.
First Apple hides the feature behind a search box that you don't usually ever see and then wouldn't ever guess that it searches the menus, then it goes even further to suggest there's no keyboard shortcut for it, when there is one. What a complete and utter UX fail.
Re: Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
#160The search tool for GIMP is Google. How do I draw a rectangle? Google brings you to https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-using-rectangular.html which starts with "GIMP is not designed to be used for drawing." and then goes on which "However, you may create shapes by either painting them using the technique described in Section 14.1, “Drawing a Straight Line” or by using the selection tools" At that point you realize th…
Or DeluxePaint II from the early 1990s. I still haven't seen a truly-adequate replacement for that. Every time someone tries to create one, they begin with good intentions and end up with a bad Photoshop clone.
If you're a DeluxePaint fan, then GrafX2 is the way to go these days.