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Nicotine (2016)

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Re: Nicotine (2016)

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Post by antiframe »

Clubber wrote: post #84
imsurgio wrote: post #76

I am a smoker. I wouldn't advise this. Before you get any stimulant effects. Which are minimal. You get very sick at first. By the time you have enough tolerance you are addicted physically. Some can quit easy but it can be a slippery slope. It's too risky as you don't know how hard it is to quit for you in advance. I've tried off and on to quit for 20 years at least. Don't do it, it's a lot of work to get past the s…

I started smoking at 12 and got completely hooked in a week. I also tried several times to quit. I quit for 3 months TWICE and started back up. I finally got off cigarettes with Juul. I also don't recommend nicotine. You'll likely be a customer for life.

I once read a book called 'The Easy Way to Stop Smoking' and, as advertised, after finishing it I haven't had a cigarette or craving since. It was literally like magic and it's worked for two of my friends as well.

Re: Nicotine (2016)

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Post by thebigspacefuck »

sieste wrote: post #102
thebigspacefuck wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re supposed to chew it only until it tastes peppery then park it in your gum/cheek

Thanks for the PSA. One would think a 10,000 word article on the benefits of non-smoking nicotine use, with a dedicated section on health issues, might mention this important detail...

Instructions are usually on the box, but you’re right, no mention of nicotine overdose which is quite unpleasant and easily negates any productivity benefits if experienced.

Re: Nicotine (2016)

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Post by api »

friend_and_foe wrote: post #180
standardUser wrote: post #154

The addictive properties of nicotine aren't magic. It requires sustained, repeated consumption, like any physically addicting substances. And research has shown that different people have different propensities for addiction (same with cocaine and alcohol). But if you do become addicted to nicotine, and are one of the people with a high propensity for nicotine addiction, you're fucked. It's one of the most challengin…

I used to smoke cigarettes for many years. Over a decade. In the last few years of smoking, I tried to quit numerous times, trying to replace it with vaping because nicotine is what I'm addicted to, right? So I shouldn't have that hard a time, it's about breaking the physical habit not the drug addiction since I'm not quitting that. Often I would go a few months. The last failed attempt, withdrawals gave me panic att…

The obvious question is whether there are other addictive compounds in cigarettes. I’ve heard stories like yours before.

Re: Nicotine (2016)

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Post by brbrodude »

sotix wrote: post #166

Is there any research into nicotine’s role in assisting those with ADHD? It’s a stimulant as the article points out, which many ADHD medications are as well of course. I’m curious if nicotine was (perhaps unintentionally) used in the 20th century to help those with ADHD stay focused on tasks and if an increase of diagnosed ADHD cases in the 21st century stems from its declined use or if it’s entirely due to other fac…

You can find some things online on a thesis that some nicotine addicts could be self-medicating indeed.

Re: Nicotine (2016)

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Post by friend_and_foe »

api wrote: post #204
friend_and_foe wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to smoke cigarettes for many years. Over a decade. In the last few years of smoking, I tried to quit numerous times, trying to replace it with vaping because nicotine is what I'm addicted to, right? So I shouldn't have that hard a time, it's about breaking the physical habit not the drug addiction since I'm not quitting that. Often I would go a few months. The last failed attempt, withdrawals gave me panic att…

The obvious question is whether there are other addictive compounds in cigarettes. I’ve heard stories like yours before.

They say there are MAOIs in tobacco that increase nicotine uptake, but I'm not entirely convinced that that's the sole culprit either. I could chew some tobacco right now, or smoke a pipe or cigar, I could even inhale it, and I wouldn't have a problem. If I were to smoke a single cigarette I'd be smoking a pack a day within a week and who knows how many months or years it would take me to rectify that. Whatever it is I suspect it's done deliberately in processing.

Re: Nicotine (2016)

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Post by brbrodude »

imsurgio wrote: post #76

I am a smoker. I wouldn't advise this. Before you get any stimulant effects. Which are minimal. You get very sick at first. By the time you have enough tolerance you are addicted physically. Some can quit easy but it can be a slippery slope. It's too risky as you don't know how hard it is to quit for you in advance. I've tried off and on to quit for 20 years at least. Don't do it, it's a lot of work to get past the s…

Fellow nic addict of 18 years here. If you haven't yet I'd recommend trying out Tabex. I'm still addicted but was able to cut it off by like 85% this year with its aid.

Re: Nicotine (2016)

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Post by trmonx »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #128
insanitybit wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't sound true.

Purely anecdotal, but I believe Keith Richards is on record stating that kicking heroin was far easier than kicking nicotine. There's evidence for this, too -- he quit using heroin decades ago, but only managed to quit smoking a few years back. So it seems to be true, at least for him.

Yes, but only because nicotine is cheap, easily available, won't cause any real immediate problems or drain your bank account.

As a substance its no where near as addicting as heroin, no one would actually ruin their lives for nicotine in case it was illegal and expensive.

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