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Don't build AI products the way everyone else is doing it

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Re: Don't build AI products the way everyone else is doing it

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

andix wrote: post #22

I think soon AI will be build into a lot of different software. This is when it will really get awesome and scary. One simple example are e-mail clients. Somebody asks for a decision or clarification. The AI could extract those questions and just offer some radio buttons, like: Accept suggested appointment times: [Friday 10:00] [Monday 11:30] [suggest other] George whats to know if you are able to present the draft:…

I’m trying to build that already personally. My plan is mbsync to Maildir storage, then process all emails using Haystack. Then trigger a pipeline on each new email with the goal of proposing some actions.

Still bouncing around various approaches in my head, but all seems very doable already.

Re: Don't build AI products the way everyone else is doing it

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Post by chasd00 »

personjerry wrote: post #30
bob1029 wrote: post #3

> The solution: create your own toolchain No thanks. I have an actual job & customer needs to tend to. I am about 80% of the way through integrating with the OAI assistant API. The real secret is to already have a viable business that AI can subsequently improve . Making AI the business is a joke of a model to me. You'd have an easier time pitching javascript frameworks in our shop. Our current application of AI is a…

So the secret to building a viable AI business... is to build a viable business, with AI?

the secret is to already have a viable business and constantly sprinkle in the latest tech. trends to maintain the illusion of being something fresh and new.

Re: Don't build AI products the way everyone else is doing it

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Post by johnnyanmac »

personjerry wrote: post #30
bob1029 wrote: post #3

> The solution: create your own toolchain No thanks. I have an actual job & customer needs to tend to. I am about 80% of the way through integrating with the OAI assistant API. The real secret is to already have a viable business that AI can subsequently improve . Making AI the business is a joke of a model to me. You'd have an easier time pitching javascript frameworks in our shop. Our current application of AI is a…

So the secret to building a viable AI business... is to build a viable business, with AI?

"what problem am I trying to solve?" if you can answer that question and justify AI as an optimization (and all the gray area fallouts that comes with early adoption) then you have a chance at building a viable business with AI.

Having a solution and looking for problems to solve (or create) isnt the mentality of an entrepreneur but of a grifter, in my crass cynical opinion. But I can't deny that you ma still make money that way.

Re: Don't build AI products the way everyone else is doing it

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Post by fillskills »

BillFranklin wrote: post #7

This is a nice post, and I think it will resonate with most new AI startups. My advice would be don't build an AI product at all. To my mind an "x product" is rarely the framing that will lead to value being added for customers. E.g. a web3 product, an observability product, a machine vision product, an AI product. Like all decent startup ideas the obviously crucial thing is to start with a real user need rather than…

This. Avoid the “If have hammer, everything looks like a nail” strategy. Find a customer pain point and use the right blend of tools

Re: Don't build AI products the way everyone else is doing it

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Post by johnnyanmac »

golergka wrote: post #23
tebbers wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a normal development project then.

Not really, no. In a normal development project last 20% take just as long. But AI applications are a very special beast.

If there's anything I would not trust an AI on its polish. It's amazing for prototyping, and has some viability at scaling up an existing operation. But the rough edges (literally in some industries) are the exact reason it's such a controversial tech as of now.

Re: Don't build AI products the way everyone else is doing it

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Post by fillskills »

BillFranklin wrote: post #7

This is a nice post, and I think it will resonate with most new AI startups. My advice would be don't build an AI product at all. To my mind an "x product" is rarely the framing that will lead to value being added for customers. E.g. a web3 product, an observability product, a machine vision product, an AI product. Like all decent startup ideas the obviously crucial thing is to start with a real user need rather than…

This. Avoid the “If have hammer, everything looks like a nail” strategy. Find a customer pain point and use the right blend of tools. You can also make a new tool where tools dont exist

Re: Don't build AI products the way everyone else is doing it

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Post by yieldcrv »

> They use a simple technique, with a pre-trained model, which anyone can copy in a very short period of time.

This article acts like the risk was something the creators cared about

all they wanted was some paid subscribers for a couple months, or some salaries paid by VCs for the next 18 months

in which case, mission accomplished for everyone

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