I think this is a horrible idea, and I really hope someone like EFF files a lawsuit against it. If the government can simply turn off your car whenever it feels like it, what else could they turn off that they don't want you to use? How about an off switch for your bank account for "unsafe" purchases? Turn off your internet for speech the government wishes to censor?
Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)
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Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)
#22This is terrible. All such systems will have false positives. It's wrong to treat everyone as a criminal instead of reserving such systems for people who actually have been convicted of it.
I'm sympathetic to this point of view, but then we have to be consistent with it. No TSA. No license plate scanners. No fare gates for trains. No locks on doors. No anti-shoplifting tags. EDIT: Is there some Emerson convention in town? You can look at my comments for some of his other quotes (It's actually not very surprising to me that an Anglo abolitionist who also believed that Anglos were the 'best' race wasn't a…
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds - Emerson
Consistency is not a primary value. It's important, but it shouldn't be the only driver to do something.
Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
But this would go in the cars, not in the roads, so that's irrelevant.
Well it wouldn't preclude your use of the car (you can still enter it and turn it on), you just can't drive it on public roads (Essentially the entire use-case of moving a vehicle). TSA is at the airport lobby and technically only precludes me from entering the airside of an airport, but its purpose is to prevent me from getting on a plane with a gun. I don't think point of implementation is a strong argument here.
Wouldn’t an closer equivalent be DUI checkpoints staffed by government-accountable law enforcement officers at the entrance to the road? Not an automaker forced to privately police you in your own vehicle
Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sympathetic to this point of view, but then we have to be consistent with it. No TSA. No license plate scanners. No fare gates for trains. No locks on doors. No anti-shoplifting tags. EDIT: Is there some Emerson convention in town? You can look at my comments for some of his other quotes (It's actually not very surprising to me that an Anglo abolitionist who also believed that Anglos were the 'best' race wasn't a…
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds - Emerson Consistency is not a primary value. It's important, but it shouldn't be the only driver to do something.
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Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)
#25I am really dreading the day my current car from 2015 that has no fancy tech features fails beyond repair and I have to get a new car. I will first attempt to get an older car with low mileage, but old cars won't last forever.
>old cars won't last forever.
The Cubans would like a word
Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)
#26Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was under the impression that 99.9% of people take their cars out on publicly owned roads when they drive. Am I mistaken?
But this would go in the cars, not in the roads, so that's irrelevant.
And the TSA rules apply to my suitcase, not to the plane. What's the difference?
Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)
#28This website is unviewable on mobile, I don't know about desktop.
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#29Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)
#30I am really dreading the day my current car from 2015 that has no fancy tech features fails beyond repair and I have to get a new car. I will first attempt to get an older car with low mileage, but old cars won't last forever.
>old cars won't last forever. The Cubans would like a word
The Cubans don't have to deal with snow and ice that requires a corrosive brine on the roads.