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Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

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Re: Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

#61

I think with Microsoft no longer considering your data off limits to them regardless of informed consent we've hit a decision point whether you are okay with that (knowing that their AI software has the possibility of regurgitating anything it's been trained on) or have to rip off the bandaid and abandon them completely.

you are not the customer - the management of you, is the customer. The management of you, does want this in many cases.

Re: Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

#62
post #33

I only have a local user on Windows 11, but have started wondering when MS will create a shadow profile for me and upload all the data. So kind of them.

Funnily enough (?), according to the article’s screenshot, the web service behind this is actually called ShadowService

Re: Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

#63

New Outlook on Mac is terrible - it lacks basic critical functionality such as tabular view (1 line per message) with column sorting by: From, To, Date received, Subject etc. Fortunately old Outlook is still available - I have to switch back after every update.

There's a huge list of missing features here if anyone cares.

https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/13lo7u6/list_of_n...

Re: Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outlook is terrible, period. I've been running the O365 Outlook version at my company and they broke simple things. I want to search for an email, so I select the folder, then click search and start typing. In the new Outlook, the moment I press the first key for my search query, the focus moves off of the search bar, for no reason whatsoever, so every. single. fucking. goddamn. time. I want to search, I select the f…

I dislike Outlook as a client for sure, but I must grudgingly admit that Outlook + Exchange is the single best, most usable, most seamless group calendaring & meeting tool I've ever used (and I've used a LOT). For that reason, I end up keeping my corporate mail in TWO clients: True desktop Outlook in a Win VM, and also in my Mac's Mail.app. 99% of my mail I handle on the Mac side (for one thing, search is WAY WAY WAY…

"new outlook" is just the webmail, you can see it at outlook.office365.com if you want.

It has a couple benefits. The search is better since it isn't limited to your local cache, and your scheduled emails don't require that you have outlook running on the desktop at go time. I try not to use it otherwise.

Re: Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

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The free new Outlook replaces Mail in Windows, and later also the classic Outlook. It sends secret credentials to Microsoft servers.

It's also about ten times slower to launch than Mail.

I thought it was just me and my slow laptop.

Re: Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

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My challenge in using the new Outlook with my hotmail account is that I disabled logging in to hotmail with my primary email address (too many hacking attempts from Russia). I use another email (yahoo) to login. This confuses the crap out of their signing in system. It assigns yahoo email protocol settings instead of hotmail/office protocol.

Re: Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically speaking, George Santos created all of those, while he was employed by Microsoft.

I heard he used to use the alias Dave Cutler and was the inspiration behind Clippy

I heard that he was called Art Vandelay during that time.
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