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Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)

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Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)

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OP article is from 2021 and is news this week because the House recently voted(1) to reaffirm the mandate that automakers include equipment in all vehicles by 2026 to detect driver impairment and automatically disable vehicles when it is detected (1) https://thefederalist.com/2023/11/08/house-republicans-help-...

If it's news, why isn't it in the news with a reasonable source? Most proposed regulation is OT-ish on HN and most proposed regulation takes a lot longer to turn into reality than originally scheduled.

Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)

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I'm sympathetic to this point of view, but then we have to be consistent with it. No TSA. No license plate scanners. No fare gates for trains. No locks on doors. No anti-shoplifting tags. EDIT: Is there some Emerson convention in town? You can look at my comments for some of his other quotes (It's actually not very surprising to me that an Anglo abolitionist who also believed that Anglos were the 'best' race wasn't a…

The difference is that you own your car, but not those other things. Things you own should always do what you want, not try to enforce laws against you.

I was under the impression that 99.9% of people take their cars out on publicly owned roads when they drive. Am I mistaken?

Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is that you own your car, but not those other things. Things you own should always do what you want, not try to enforce laws against you.

I was under the impression that 99.9% of people take their cars out on publicly owned roads when they drive. Am I mistaken?

But this would go in the cars, not in the roads, so that's irrelevant.

Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)

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I was under the impression that 99.9% of people take their cars out on publicly owned roads when they drive. Am I mistaken?

But this would go in the cars, not in the roads, so that's irrelevant.

Well it wouldn't preclude your use of the car (you can still enter it and turn it on), you just can't drive it on public roads (Essentially the entire use-case of moving a vehicle).

TSA is at the airport lobby and technically only precludes me from entering the airside of an airport, but its purpose is to prevent me from getting on a plane with a gun.

I don't think point of implementation is a strong argument here.

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This is terrible. All such systems will have false positives. It's wrong to treat everyone as a criminal instead of reserving such systems for people who actually have been convicted of it.

It also increases the cost of every new car. People complain about housing, and goods like cars being expensive. But many fail to realize that every do-good law has a cost.

"There are no solutions. There are only trade-offs."

Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)

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OP article is from 2021 and is news this week because the House recently voted(1) to reaffirm the mandate that automakers include equipment in all vehicles by 2026 to detect driver impairment and automatically disable vehicles when it is detected (1) https://thefederalist.com/2023/11/08/house-republicans-help-...

If it's news, why isn't it in the news with a reasonable source? Most proposed regulation is OT-ish on HN and most proposed regulation takes a lot longer to turn into reality than originally scheduled.

One might leave the answer for why the only articles covering this regulation in mainstream sources are fact checking misinterpretations of the law (as opposed to a headline with what the law actually says) as a worthwhile exercise for the reader

Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)

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This is going to be so awesome when I can't drive my car because I just used hand sanitizer. Or won't let me drive because i just cleaned the windows with window cleaner. Solution is cars that drive themselves.

So people who live in Minnesota just don't get to use cars for 4 months of the year? Autonomous vehicles cannot handle snow covered roads with emergently defined flocking based lanes and road edges. There's a reason the vast majority of autonomous vehicle testing is done in the arid southwest of the USA.

Re: Congress mandates new car technology to stop drunken driving (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's news, why isn't it in the news with a reasonable source? Most proposed regulation is OT-ish on HN and most proposed regulation takes a lot longer to turn into reality than originally scheduled.

One might leave the answer for why the only articles covering this regulation in mainstream sources are fact checking misinterpretations of the law (as opposed to a headline with what the law actually says) as a worthwhile exercise for the reader

Posting an old news article without year to slide in your unpostable URL is just lame, not any kind of exercise for the reader.
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