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Change of subject - any thoughts on the difference between user-friendly URLs? Root paths route to usernames: - https://twitter.com/username - https://github.com/username - https://www.instagram.com/username Sigil-scoped paths for usernames (these also use www-prefix): - https://www.threads.net/@username - https://www.youtube.com/@username Path-scoped usernames: - https://www.reddit.com/user/username - https://www.re…
Why the heck did this get downvoted to -4? It was an earnest question. I'm trying to figure it out for my own startup. Perhaps a tangent too far?
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Sadly any capitalistic company fails for the same exact reasons. They can't continue making more and more money every quarter, so they call it a failure and give up. To these company's, having a stable business is worse than having a failed business. Because a least a failed business can be sold off for parts.
Revenue is not profit. They're losing money. Their bank balance is decreasing.
But Tumblr users are very hostile against, really, any changes to how Tumblr operates. It just alienated a lot of us, which isn't going to help them in terms of profit.
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> MindGeek should buy Tumblr and allow adult content again. MindGeek isn't interested in new investments allowing independent content creation. MindGeek has been the target of active - and successful - campaigns from anti-pornography groups with explicit religious motivation (Exodus Cry, Morality in Media, etc., mostly funded by right-wing evangelicals). Those groups are the reason that Xtube shut down in 2021, and t…
While I don't disagree with the bulk of your comment, it's worth noting that PornHub / MindGeek didn't just shoot themselves in the foot but hurt the entire industry when there were numerous videos of missing teens and underage content found on their site. I say this as someone who ran an adult website for 18 years, in Canada, until suddenly our bank informed us that they were closing our commercial accounts and we c…
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I dug into one such report that broke and apparently it was around 30 videos that they had found. When I checked Pornhub, I believe it currently had over 20,000 videos, and that was presumably after they'd been under quite a bit of scrutiny. IMO there is quite a mismatch in magnitude there.
Of course, there probably were other illicit videos, but there is no reason, in my opinion, to suggest that Pornhub had an unusually large problem. Unfortunately though, a lot of the videos like this that wind up undetected likely have been spreading through the Internet for several years going unnoticed simply because it doesn't look particularly different from any other pornography. As it turns out, at least certainly late teens look a lot like young adults.
This does create an unfortunate conundrum for anyone allowing user generated content that is pornographic. Even ignoring explicit abuse, teens are relentlessly horny and will upload inappropriate things to the Internet, or even try to sell it. Seriously short-sighted behavior, but you know... they're teenagers. We've all been there. It's not some alien condition.
I understand that people have extremely strong emotions about this and want a zero-tolerance stance, but it's not possible. If you allow adult content, you inevitably get some ideally-infinitesimal trickle of illicit content, probably often strictly by accident. Best you can do is try to find it and clean it up as effectively as possible.
I fully understand why it's treated like toxic waste, and I'm not trying to justify it, but no matter how despicable the crime is, you can't fully eliminate crime, it doesn't work that way. I think keeping "legitimate" pornography sites like Pornhub was actually likely slowing the amount of said toxic waste because Pornhub actually did moderate, clearly, whereas the back alleys that people are likely to fall back to are going to simply be less well-moderated by their nature. At the end of the day, most social media platforms proliferate a lot more CSAM than Pornhub has even if you estimate very generously.
In the Omegle shutdown letter, the founder notes that Omegle's content moderation resulted in some criminals going to prison. Pornhub's moderation has undoubtedly done the same.
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> Tumblr's success was that it was an adult space that wasn't strictly pornography. This is a common talking point here, but it just isn't historically accurate in terms of absolute numbers. Tumblr was most successful in 2011-2012. It started getting huge in 2010 in large part due to having built-in photo and video support, at a time when Twitter didn't have these, and Instagram and Pinterest were still both tiny. Tu…
Seems like a reasonable take but I do have one comment: > Adult content was definitely present, but it was a single-digit percentage of posts at the time of Tumblr's peak historical traffic levels. Single-digit percentage is a lot for adult content. I have to imagine that's a larger share of percentage than Twitter has ever had for adult content.
Twitter didn't even have built-in photo posts until mid 2011, and even then it was through a third-party integration with Photobucket for the first year. Images weren't shown inline in the Twitter timeline feed until late 2013! Meanwhile direct video upload was added even later than that.
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#196From a live-stream from the Tumblr staff convention this year, their CEO: > Yeah, so right now, we're burning. Which means spending more than we make. About 30 million per year more than we make. > So, that's a lot. We can't do that forever and so that's why we're really trying to figure out things that y'all would value. Whether that's merch or upgrades or badges or gifts or Blaze or other things. Every little bit h…
The lesson: "Don't remove porn when the userbase is left-leaning and embraces it." Reddit and Twitter do it the right way: hiding adult-rated content behind the curtains.
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Seems like a reasonable take but I do have one comment: > Adult content was definitely present, but it was a single-digit percentage of posts at the time of Tumblr's peak historical traffic levels. Single-digit percentage is a lot for adult content. I have to imagine that's a larger share of percentage than Twitter has ever had for adult content.
That's expected given Twitter leans more towards text content. The proportion of Tumblr posts that are images or video has always been much higher than Twitter's. Twitter didn't even have built-in photo posts until mid 2011, and even then it was through a third-party integration with Photobucket for the first year. Images weren't shown inline in the Twitter timeline feed until late 2013! Meanwhile direct video upload…
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Who would have ever though giving way your product for free would not be a good business model... odd.... It is not "social media" that is the problem is the Ad Supported business model in general, everything ad supported is having problems right now, look at "news", blog sites, etc If it is ad support is has issue turning a profit. That is because ad supported is a terrible business model, however investors keep try…
The problem with social media is that it has to get a large userbase, and it's much, much harder to convince someone to pay than it is to use your free service. Especially if your service is social media. Twitter seems to be trying to get people to pay, and it isn't going well for them. No, in today's world in order to make a "profitable" social media, you have to get people to pay through other means. Like news.ycom…
I would love to see your source for that? To my understanding since twitter is private now no one has any idea what their costs structure or revenue is currently and are taking huge assumptions that they have issues because of events like them not paying rent etc. But some of that is common tactics to force people to negotiate.
I am not saying they are doing well, but currently I have no evidence in either direction
>>you have to get people to pay through other means.
Which ironically is twitter/x over all goal I believe, to not just be Social media but to bring in some of the original idea's that first made Elon rich... Paypal. Money Exchange, ecommmerce, now AI, etc etc etc.
To be more than just social media.
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> normal, non-sexual photos of trans people are "nsfw" now FWIW, the algorithms that big tech companies use are often trained to recognize women’s underwear. So non-sexual photos of trans men wearing women’s underwear are often flagged, even when similar photos of women wearing boxers are not. I’m not saying it’s right, just giving the actual reason this happens. (Albeit I don’t have Tumblr-specific knowledge.)
How sensitive/stupid are these? Can the behavior be exploited to force innocent images get flagged as explicit? Asking for a friend… also would make an excellent shirt design if properly tweaked
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#200MindGeek should buy Tumblr and allow adult content again. Tumblr's success was that it was an adult space that wasn't strictly pornography. It was a "cool sex" to PornHub's "hot sex".
> Tumblr's success was that it was an adult space that wasn't strictly pornography. This is a common talking point here, but it just isn't historically accurate in terms of absolute numbers. Tumblr was most successful in 2011-2012. It started getting huge in 2010 in large part due to having built-in photo and video support, at a time when Twitter didn't have these, and Instagram and Pinterest were still both tiny. Tu…
I don't think its simply the existence of NSFW content that makes advertisers wary. I think its lack of guarantees w/r/t placement