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This is devastating. I have so many fond memories of meeting fellow weirdos over text. The days where StumbleUpon always took you somewhere exciting, cool, beautiful, interesting, funny, or novel. Where you looked at what people did with The Web 2.0 and only marveled at the possibilities of what could come. Truly feels like the death of one of the old guard, a Usenet-of-the-2010s. I even used it during pandemic times…
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Really? We want to protect the rights of pedophiles? Where could this argument be going.
Slippery slope fallacy. How many people are pedophiles? How many people who aren't will need to give up their rights so that that minority... actually just keeps on doing what they do, because there's always alternatives?
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Even a non-golden era can have something truly valuable. Btw, we are living in a golden age. The vast majority of humanity has never had it better.
The issue is the definition of 'better'. If you think access to food, medication, education, higher life expectancy, then yes. IMHO though, a more fitting defition of 'better' for the human condition is the amount of happiness you experience while being alife (i.e. decoupled from life expectancy). I would then conclude (and I am really happy to be proved wrong) that the developed world being/becoming better is consid…
It's difficult to compare suicide statistics over time, especially over decades, because definitions change. (For one example, in England a coroner used to need to be able to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that a person had died by suicide, and that changed to balance of probabilities in 2018).
It's also important not to use sources like media outlets for suicide statistics, because they often don't understand what's being counted or how it's being counted. Statistics are tricky, and media often get them wrong.
You say that it's easy to show that suicides are at an all time high in many first world countries, but that's not correct. In many countries rates peaked in about 2008 - 2010 because of world wide financial crash, and have been declining since then. We might see another peak because of the financial (and other) distress caused by pandemic, but so far we're not seeing a big increase.
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Twitter, Facebook, Gmail, Telegram, WhatsApp, Zoom and all those companies with UGC have this, responsible ones report it (Meta does lots, not sure Twitter does anymore, Telegram never did). > I don't get how they can sue Omegle for this. Take it as a sign that if tech community doesn't wake up and own up to this and try to solve the issue somehow then not just individual services but the entire idea of e2ee messagin…
Orders of magnitude more grooming and misconduct is done over SMS than was ever done over Omegle. Is it up to telecom engineers to “wake up” and own that they’re facilitating this abuse? It seems like one of those finger pointing cases which falls apart when any level of scrutiny is applied.
Yeah, you should bring up snail mail next.
Even if we imagine someone using SMS in this day and age, still no one uses it to send photos or videos or broadcast live abuse.
> Is it up to telecom engineers to “wake up”
For better or worse a lot of what they do is considered essential service (calling emergency, disaster response etc).
e2ee messaging isn't essential, and yes ordinary non-tech people are waking up to harmful uses of it. If tech industry doesn't own up to that and work to combat those, someone else will and in that case rest assured you will not like the result:)
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We had some years of kind-of stability in the world with no significant big wars. But with recent events the world is feeling like "it is burning". Just because we got accustomed to the more peacefull live. So, I wouldn't say its like "we always thought that". Its more like we had a good short phase and now its back to normal. Or maybe the good phase is the normal and the pendulum swings back?
The world would be much better if people learnt that wars even in places far from them such as between the middle east and the US, would have a network affect and bring instability to other parts of the world and soon near them. The world started "burning" again with the war on Iraq / Afghanistan.
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What "basic behavior" is that? Anonymously video chatting strangers on the internet? Can't you already do that in many Discord servers? Or on dozens of other apps and websites (e.g. Chatroulette)? There clearly isn't anything fundamentally illegal about the practice, or these would all be shut down.
> Or on dozens of other apps and websites (e.g. Chatroulette)? Chatroulette, the one most similar to Omegle, like Omegle, was started by a teenager alone (at about the same time), with the additional advantage (from the point of vulnerability to civil liability) of being in Russia. But even so, they very early on faced the same kind of criticism as Omegle, shifted to registration-required and adults-only very early o…
Over the years, the handful of times I’ve gone on CR, I’ve never seen any form of required registration or age verification beyond maybe an “I’m 18+” checkbox or something.
Maybe abusing webtorrent trackers to do discovery might work, but would likely be trickier.
Of course, it's probably a bad idea to stand up a clone of the site that's impossible to properly moderate.
The Verge: “Omegle gained a reputation as a breeding ground for sexual abuse of minors, leading to a prominent lawsuit “ Take any physical space that developed this reputation, it would also have been shut down by lawsuits.
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exactly. think about your existence. You wouldn't exist if your parents hadn't met and reproduced, and if their parents hadn't met and reproduced, and so on until you get to our monocellular ancestor. Everyone here is the product of a very long, unbroken line of ancestry spanning back billions of years! If any of those ancestors had not chosen to reproduce, you don't exist. It's mindblowing to me. Actually one of the…
I had a friend who would say the following the middle aged female friends who didn’t have daughters: Did your mom have a daughter? Female answers “yes” Did her mom have a daughter? Yes Did her mom have a daughter? Yes This lineage of course extends beyond even human history back to Proto life forms. And then you end it with “after all that, you’re ending the legacy by not having a daughter”.