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Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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It's insane that we live in fear of retaliation for not giving a vendor more money while getting nothing in return.

don't ever fuck with the people who prepare your food

Jesus, fuck this—it's all too complicated. I'll just cook at home, thanks. Costs less, way healthier, tastes better and guaranteed to contain no bodily fluids. The enshittification of the food service industry is complete.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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> It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? What does the average tip-receiving worker who isn't a bartender/waiter/waitress look like wage wise? Probably $14/hr base salary, get a split $20 worth of tips a night Say you work 6 hours a night. $104 -> $84 is like getting a 20% paycut. Reworded: > It can sound controversial, but can we cut all barista pay/takeout food baggers pay/etc.…

Just to be clear, someone in that situation does not get a 20% pay cut unless their employer is breaking the law. What actually happens is that the $20 in tips per night is deducted from the minimum wage that your employer has to pay you. So the difference is in the immediacy of the funds, not the quantity—there is eventual replacement for everybody working minimum wage or lower, as the amount that employers are lega…

i’m not talking about waiters/waitresses

i’m talking about smoothie bars, fast food restaurants, etc.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#143

The right amount is 0%. Tipping is stupid, if you can’t afford to pay your staff, your trading insolvent.

Hilarious that you mention this when the other camp says, “If you can’t afford to tip you can’t afford to eat out.”

Thank you.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Yesterday I had lunch at a Shake Shack. Humans don't take orders there any more; you place your order at a self-serve touchscreen kiosk. As I finished placing my order, I was prompted to leave a tip; 10% was the default and you had to press a button to change it. Who am I tipping, exactly? The kiosk? Myself? No one had even made eye contact with me up to this point. I have ordered fast food from a computer. When I ha…

That's especially ridiculous because Shake Shack founder Danny Meyer made a big stink about eliminating tipping from his numerous restaurants back in 2015!

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#146

The biggest myth is that of poor service workers being paid under minimum wage and relying on your tips to survive the reality is that attractive waitresses make up to FIVE TIMES the take home nightly pay of workers in the back in tips. tips are extremely lucrative. there is a reason that wait staff themselves never oppose the current system. Not to mention the legal myths. if they actually received $0 in tips their…

> the reality is that attractive waitresses make up to FIVE TIMES the take home nightly pay People constantly make this statement as if it is something wrong. The factor of the matter is that I probably make 20-30% more than ny teams project manager, why? Because I went into computers and had a mind for it and being blessed to be fairly intelligent (at least I'd like to believe so), resulting in me getting paid more…

what I am resenting is the misinformation false-narratives about workers who get tipped.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#147

It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? Leaving aside for a second the fact that now tipping is basically asked everywhere (even at automated machines) - as an European I consider it an extremely stupid trend. If you're "forced" to tip, then it's not a tip anymore. The concept of tipping, at least in Switzerland, has always been to show gratitude for an *exceptional* service. I tot…

I genuinely enjoy tipping at places that provide a service over an extended period of time. I've had a golf lesson where the guy stayed 15 minutes over to show me some pointers, I've gotten haircuts where the dude takes his time to do it right and is a pleasure to hang out with. Tipping in those scenarios feels like I'm rewarding awesome services. 95% of tipping scenarios aren't that, and it's gotten out of control.

> I've gotten haircuts where the dude takes his time to do it right and is a pleasure to hang out with.

Wow. I always tip for haircuts, but I’ll tip around 50% if the person is just down to business, efficient, and gets me out of the chair quickly. I’m happy to talk to people to make their day more interesting, but left to my own devices, I'd rather just have the quiet.

So basically I’m seeking out and rewarding the opposite behavior than what you are. I can only imagine the whiplash barbers and hairdressers must feel.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Yea, just price it in to the goddamn food or service. There is no difference between a $10 burger plus $2 obligatory tip and a $12 burger with no tipping. EDIT: It's not the customer's job to pay a company's payroll.

The problem is that they sell a 12$ burger and the 2$ doesn't go to the waiter - instead they ask you to pay 14$ to compensate for this

Then make the burger $14 and give $2 to the waiter internally.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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It took me a few months to get over not tipping but my new rule is unless it's a sit down and food is brought, no tip.

Yep but include baristas

No, if I take food from a counter myself and clean my own table when I leave, there is NO tip for you.

This is beyond madness.

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