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Re: Monaspace

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Post by inferiorhuman »

cflewis wrote: post #47

I enjoy the idea, but I do wonder why we don't see more condensed fonts like PragmataPro. I've been using it for close to a decade and I'd love to see more options in the space, but no-one seems willing to go that narrow. Berkeley Graphics has been promising a condensed version of Berkeley Mono for almost a year but nothing has happened there. Even Monaspace here has a width slider, which starts at "wider than Pragma…

I just discovered M+. I rather like the "60" variants, and found the default (50) width is too narrow for me. For my tastes legibility seems to suffer with the 50 variants. However, that might be narrow enough for you.

https://mplusfonts.github.io/

Re: Monaspace

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Post by slotrans »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #58
slotrans wrote: post #53

Is there a trick to getting these to work in Sublime Text? I normally use Source Code Pro, which also comes in a bunch of variations, and I can set font_face to "Source Code Pro Medium" or "Source Code Pro Semibold Italic" and I get the right result. But setting it to "Monataype Krypton Medium" doesn't work at all. "Monatype Krypton" does, but the Regular variants are too skinny.

Font selection is always a bit wonky on OSX in my experience. Sublime doesn't offer a separate font weight knob but does offer "font_options" which takes an array of string values – specifying bold will get you a bold by default font. For an arbitrary weight what worked for me was to use the PostScript name e.g. "MonaspaceArgonVar-ExtraLightItalic". There are plenty of ways to find the PS name but on OSX (on Sonoma a…

Thanks, this works!

So tl;dr it's: "MonaspaceVARIANT-WEIGHT", no spaces.

Re: Monaspace

#63

Post by amake »

cflewis wrote: post #47

I enjoy the idea, but I do wonder why we don't see more condensed fonts like PragmataPro. I've been using it for close to a decade and I'd love to see more options in the space, but no-one seems willing to go that narrow. Berkeley Graphics has been promising a condensed version of Berkeley Mono for almost a year but nothing has happened there. Even Monaspace here has a width slider, which starts at "wider than Pragma…

I agree entirely. PragmataPro is my daily driver, and anything else feels way too expansive.

Default Iosevka is close, but the leading is much larger. Luckily you can customize it to be almost identical (set `leading = 1110` in the config; value obtained by trial and error).

Re: Monaspace

#64

Post by amake »

bsder wrote: post #25

Can we please stop with abusing ligatures for things like != into ≠? If you want APL, please use APL and leave the rest of us alone. != is two bloody characters not one . And now people are doing it for 3 characters. With this kind of thing, you get all the text editing idiocy of combining characters (like emojis) for no benefit at all. See: Text Editing Hates You Too https://lord.io/text-editing-hates-you-too/

No. People like them. No one is forcing you to use them. Stop complaining about it.

Re: Monaspace

#65

Post by amake »

redder23 wrote: post #23

I really hate most of these fontLigatures. They just confuse me, many of the character combination I never even used in the languages I code in. And others look so different that I would be afraid to not know what they actually are. Some seem useful but is seems I can not pick them individually and have to commit to an entire group of them. The symbol for (something I never used anyway) looks like the absolute worst…

No one cares. Just don't use them.

Re: Monaspace

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Post by inferiorhuman »

slotrans wrote: post #62
inferiorhuman wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Font selection is always a bit wonky on OSX in my experience. Sublime doesn't offer a separate font weight knob but does offer "font_options" which takes an array of string values – specifying bold will get you a bold by default font. For an arbitrary weight what worked for me was to use the PostScript name e.g. "MonaspaceArgonVar-ExtraLightItalic". There are plenty of ways to find the PS name but on OSX (on Sonoma a…

Thanks, this works! So tl;dr it's: "MonaspaceVARIANT-WEIGHT", no spaces.

In this case yes, but I would double check the PostScript name because I believe that naming convention is not a hard requirement.

Re: Monaspace

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Post by naikrovek »

nvartolomei wrote: post #18
turnsout wrote: post #4

The "Texture Healing" feature is a really smart use of OpenType features to make problematic monospace combinations look much better without breaking the grid at all. One naive way to do this would be to create ligature pairs for difficult pairs (mi, lm, etc). But instead, they seem to be selecting character alternates that fill the fixed width differently based on their surroundings.

Commit Mono font does something similar and calls it “Smart kerning”. Visit https://commitmono.com/ and click on the “04 Intelligent” tab for details. In practice this is unusable. Because the width of the letters now depends on the succeeding character, the text jumps as you write it. Super annoying. Cool for reading. Awful for writing.

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Re: Monaspace

#68

Post by naikrovek »

afc wrote: post #28
idan wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi! I worked on this at Next. Unfortunately, it's on the editor to support mixing fonts. There's never been multiple compatible monospaced fonts before so no editors really support this yet. Lots of editors also don't support variable typefaces properly yet (ahem, VS Code) but this is going to change. Ultimately what you're describing is the future! But we have to release the typefaces to bootstrap that future. We ma…

Do you know of any Linux terminal (eg. xterm, gnome-terminal, etc.) that would support multiple fonts? I'm intrigued, shouldn't be very hard to add support to command-line programs (once terminals supported it).

Wezterm does. expansive configuration and scripting abilities are available.

Re: Monaspace

#69

Post by omneity »

Texture healing is that kind of feature you never knew you needed until you knew about it. A perfect candidate for my next obsession.

Re: Monaspace

#70

Post by notatoad »

csande17 wrote: post #13

I'm curious what people think of the "Mix & Match" examples. Radon (the handwriting one) seems to complement the other fonts well because it's basically an italic. But all the others are so similar, with their identical metrics and whatnot, that the "authoritative docstrings" and "Copilot voice" examples are really hard to distinguish.

yeah, i flipped through the samples without even realizing it was changing anything in the code sample box until i got to the radon variant.

those other variants are not nearly different enough to really convey information.

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