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Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#62

Tipping is a significant negative experience that probably causes me to eat out less often. It's increasingly manipulative, extortionate, and most of all pointless. You have no idea what service you paid for or if the person who rendered it actually received the money.

at least going out to eat and paying a tip is better than staying home paying for the food, paying for a delivery fee, paying for "recovery fees", then finally paying for a tip.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#63

It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? Leaving aside for a second the fact that now tipping is basically asked everywhere (even at automated machines) - as an European I consider it an extremely stupid trend. If you're "forced" to tip, then it's not a tip anymore. The concept of tipping, at least in Switzerland, has always been to show gratitude for an *exceptional* service. I tot…

> It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether?

Yes, I'm all for it. But it would easier to do during times in which service workers aren't just barely scrapping by, and had more negotiating power.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#64
post #24

Everyone on here is complaining about the tips, but I don’t see a way to break tipping culture. Are we going to keep ratcheting up tip percentages forever or is there a solution?

I tip servers, bartenders, cab drivers, and my barber. If a machine prompts me for more money, I ignore it.

edit: and I tip the food delivery guy

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#65
post #24

Everyone on here is complaining about the tips, but I don’t see a way to break tipping culture. Are we going to keep ratcheting up tip percentages forever or is there a solution?

Making a restaurant tip free isn't enough. They need to give staff a fixed percentage of the menu price and make it known.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#66

It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? Leaving aside for a second the fact that now tipping is basically asked everywhere (even at automated machines) - as an European I consider it an extremely stupid trend. If you're "forced" to tip, then it's not a tip anymore. The concept of tipping, at least in Switzerland, has always been to show gratitude for an *exceptional* service. I tot…

I’ve seen more and more places just include an obligatory 20% service charge. Should that just be priced in? Yes. But I think it’s a baby step in the right direction.

I have just came from London and have witnessed this in plenty of places there. Normally I would tip around 10%, but I'm more happy with this system, even if it's 20%.

If they decide for you and ideally print up the amount in the menu then it's basically pricing it into the food which is how it should have always been.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#67
post #24

Everyone on here is complaining about the tips, but I don’t see a way to break tipping culture. Are we going to keep ratcheting up tip percentages forever or is there a solution?

The problem is that if everyone stops tipping, the only ones being affected are the restaurant staff - not the owners. So the message won't be delivered and might actually cause more harm than it should.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#68

One of the things about going to Japan, was the service there is phenomenal . Like way above-average. They won't accept tips. In fact, if you leave money on the table, they will chase after you, to give it back. If they did accept tips, I'd make it 50%. I'm pretty sure the reason is that the employees are paid a living wage. A nice side-effect, is that your table doesn't have an "assigned waitstaff." You can ask anyo…

No, it's culture. They're more traditional and still take pride in their work.

They get 6-9$ per hour (which is not much even accounting for the extra purchasing power) and hard to live on.

In my EU country waiters make more and often have a terrible attitude.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#69

It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? Leaving aside for a second the fact that now tipping is basically asked everywhere (even at automated machines) - as an European I consider it an extremely stupid trend. If you're "forced" to tip, then it's not a tip anymore. The concept of tipping, at least in Switzerland, has always been to show gratitude for an *exceptional* service. I tot…

I’ve seen more and more places just include an obligatory 20% service charge. Should that just be priced in? Yes. But I think it’s a baby step in the right direction.

I hate that even more than tipping. Just hike the prices by 20%, and I might come back a second time. Hit me with a surprise 20% surcharge, and I surely won't.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#70
post #13

This might be a self-report, but... I used to tip anywhere from high 20's to low 30's, but in the years since COVID, _everything_ asks for a tip even when no extra service is provided (i.e. take-out), so I default to 0%, or a modest 10 or 15% if it's dine-in at a local shop. I support workers' rights and a living wage, but can't really justify upholding the current scheme of exploitation by store owners in the name o…

I used to tip 50%. $2 beer? $1 tip. Now the same beer is $5 and I dont feel like tipping anymore.

Yeah, I feel the same way about coffee. If I'm paying $3 for something that ought to cost $0.75, then I don't see why I should tip another $1 on top.
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