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Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by denysvitali »

gustavus wrote: post #27
denysvitali wrote: post #14

It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? Leaving aside for a second the fact that now tipping is basically asked everywhere (even at automated machines) - as an European I consider it an extremely stupid trend. If you're "forced" to tip, then it's not a tip anymore. The concept of tipping, at least in Switzerland, has always been to show gratitude for an *exceptional* service. I tot…

Eh most workers prefer tipping as they can usually make more with tipping then they can with an increased wage. The real problem is where tipping is now demanded when no customer service is given or before.

The real problem is that minimum wages are too low. If you make more in tips than with your wage - there is something conceptually wrong.

I understand this is the norm in the States, but in Europe this is definitely not the case (as far as I know).

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by kylebenzle »

yreg wrote: post #17
jmcphers wrote: post #7

Yesterday I had lunch at a Shake Shack. Humans don't take orders there any more; you place your order at a self-serve touchscreen kiosk. As I finished placing my order, I was prompted to leave a tip; 10% was the default and you had to press a button to change it. Who am I tipping, exactly? The kiosk? Myself? No one had even made eye contact with me up to this point. I have ordered fast food from a computer. When I ha…

Don't worry, you will stop feeling bad about it after it happens a few more times. You haven't done anything wrong.

It took me a few months to get over not tipping but my new rule is unless it's a sit down and food is brought, no tip.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by Klonoar »

I'm at the point where I tip at certain experience-style dining outings, some bars, or at my local coffee shop where I know the workers and they're chill to me. Beyond these two experiences it's just gotten absurd.

I partly want to blame the processors since they no doubt make more money when the overall charges are higher with tips.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by denysvitali »

ryandrake wrote: post #39
teaearlgraycold wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen more and more places just include an obligatory 20% service charge. Should that just be priced in? Yes. But I think it’s a baby step in the right direction.

Yea, just price it in to the goddamn food or service. There is no difference between a $10 burger plus $2 obligatory tip and a $12 burger with no tipping. EDIT: It's not the customer's job to pay a company's payroll.

The problem is that they sell a 12$ burger and the 2$ doesn't go to the waiter - instead they ask you to pay 14$ to compensate for this

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by Chirael »

dylan604 wrote: post #31
yreg wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry, you will stop feeling bad about it after it happens a few more times. You haven't done anything wrong.

but the fear of them spitting in the food will always still be there

Choose to go somewhere else that doesn’t do that to you; if you vote with your feet, they will get the message

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by [deleted] »

gustavus wrote: post #27
denysvitali wrote: post #14

It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? Leaving aside for a second the fact that now tipping is basically asked everywhere (even at automated machines) - as an European I consider it an extremely stupid trend. If you're "forced" to tip, then it's not a tip anymore. The concept of tipping, at least in Switzerland, has always been to show gratitude for an *exceptional* service. I tot…

Eh most workers prefer tipping as they can usually make more with tipping then they can with an increased wage. The real problem is where tipping is now demanded when no customer service is given or before.

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Re: People no longer know how much to tip

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Post by calvinmorrison »

jmcphers wrote: post #7

Yesterday I had lunch at a Shake Shack. Humans don't take orders there any more; you place your order at a self-serve touchscreen kiosk. As I finished placing my order, I was prompted to leave a tip; 10% was the default and you had to press a button to change it. Who am I tipping, exactly? The kiosk? Myself? No one had even made eye contact with me up to this point. I have ordered fast food from a computer. When I ha…

I had the lady at PetChain ask me if I wanted to donate to starving dogs (as I hold a bag of food, to feed MY starving dog). I ignored her, anyway, then i go to pay and theres another question on some digital pad asking if I want to donate to X shelter. I just ignored it and played dumb. It was enjoyable to watch her say 'its asking you a questsion' and me just tapping my card repetitively like a boomer.

I refuse to engage in your bullshit!

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