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People no longer know how much to tip

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Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#21
Their "history of tipping" doesn't make a ton of sense.

They say it starts with black americans willing to work as waiters for lower wages, since they could expect to be paid with tips. If they took those jobs expecting to be tipped, tipping was already a common practice.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#22

I would much rather pay more for items than be expected to tip. I consider tipping to be like all the other "hidden fees" we encounter. Just give me the total price for something.

I mostly don’t tip. I don’t do this by stiffing waiters, I do it by not going to places where I’ll be expected to tip. Which means I make my own coffee in the morning and either make my own food or get premade salads or sandwiches from the grocery store. Works for me at least but I rather enjoy living modestly.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#26
One of the things about going to Japan, was the service there is phenomenal. Like way above-average.

They won't accept tips.

In fact, if you leave money on the table, they will chase after you, to give it back.

If they did accept tips, I'd make it 50%.

I'm pretty sure the reason is that the employees are paid a living wage.

A nice side-effect, is that your table doesn't have an "assigned waitstaff." You can ask anyone walking by, for assistance.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#27

It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? Leaving aside for a second the fact that now tipping is basically asked everywhere (even at automated machines) - as an European I consider it an extremely stupid trend. If you're "forced" to tip, then it's not a tip anymore. The concept of tipping, at least in Switzerland, has always been to show gratitude for an *exceptional* service. I tot…

Eh most workers prefer tipping as they can usually make more with tipping then they can with an increased wage.

The real problem is where tipping is now demanded when no customer service is given or before.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#28
Tipping is a significant negative experience that probably causes me to eat out less often. It's increasingly manipulative, extortionate, and most of all pointless. You have no idea what service you paid for or if the person who rendered it actually received the money.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#29

It can sound controversial, but can we please stop with tipping altogether? Leaving aside for a second the fact that now tipping is basically asked everywhere (even at automated machines) - as an European I consider it an extremely stupid trend. If you're "forced" to tip, then it's not a tip anymore. The concept of tipping, at least in Switzerland, has always been to show gratitude for an *exceptional* service. I tot…

I’ve seen more and more places just include an obligatory 20% service charge. Should that just be priced in? Yes. But I think it’s a baby step in the right direction.

The thing is that the food price (e.g: menu item) already includes that - so there shouldn't be a tip to begin with.

IMHO they should add a mandatory 20% service charge _after_ they discount all of the menu items by 20% - or simply get rid of the tip entirely.

Re: People no longer know how much to tip

#30

I think the word 'tip' should be replaced with the word 'subsidize' on these payment prompt machines. Quite absurd practice that I really wish we can move away from as a society.

Our present system’s degrading of the term “tip” is part of the enshitification of everything.
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