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YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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Doesn't that same argument apply to cookie consent popups? Privacy shouldn't only be afforded to the more technical users.

I’d be interested to see the data that shows cookie notifications have had a useful impact.

I'd wager they've had a "useful" impact, in that they've done a lot to coerce/manipulate users into allowing tracking cookies. :\

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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Why should companies be required to offer content to people for free?

Welll... to be fair, that's literally the only reason the platform got as big as it did, and became "the" ubiquitous video hosting platform. They fronted the cost to capture a massive audience, and now they gradually extract more and more value out of the user base they lured in.

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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> Should every website ask for your consent to serve you javascript now? Ideally, yes.

uMatrix implements that. Highly recommend.

There is also https://noscript.net/

I don't think umatrix is actively maintained any more

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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I don't think this argument has any legs. You request a page from a web server, the server gives you back some html and some javascript, you execute the javascript which detects if you are using an adblocker. There is no tracking involved, if you believe the js you got back is spyware you can refrain from running it and you can't watch the vid. Should every website ask for your consent to serve you javascript now?

Yes.

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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Might* *Actually doesn't

I can see you're already being downvoted because Hacker News has a really juvenile attitude to DRM. No one has the right to YouTube (or free media for that matter).

> Hacker News has a really juvenile attitude to DRM.

The door is that way.

Anyway. Sure, no one has right to YouTube, but they can't have their cake and eat it too. I think the EU trend is pretty clear: no tracking to make money off our citizens. If you want to sell them a service, go ahead and just name your price. Actually compete instead of giving away stuff for free to undermine competition and then getting the money back by peddling the eyeballs in the back alleys.

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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Are people actually getting blocked? I saw the adblock-block popup once, and after flushing the cache and updating filters of my adblocker I haven't had any issues using yt since. Am I just in a lucky A/B group or is the detection and blockage actually that toothless?

I’m getting fully blocked. I barely mind it anymore though, it basically acts as a great procrastination block. (I think there’s work around a like that embedded videos still work but I like reducing the amount.)

This is why I'm surprised by their tactics.

Google is SO data driven, and many people's objectives are going to be impacted by the reduced watch time.

They're going to have to (or already have) modify the objectives of many, many employees

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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For those users, there is uBlock Origin. Actually, I think it's the recommended suggestion by their developer for all users, isn't uMatrix no longer supported with uBlock Origin including many of it's features?

I'm still using uMatrix. I don't really understand why uMatrix was abandoned, its UI is miles ahead what uBlock Origin offers.

I haven't used uMatrix in years, but isn't the UI in uBlock Origin > More similar, do you know what's missing?

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium...

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