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YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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I would happily pay for youtube without ads if I was confident that they wouldn't start putting ads in it anyways like always seems to happen with these services.

You could pay for YouTube Premium until it starts playing ads, then?

they will eventually do that

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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It allows them to create a profile of the users. Same reason android no longer has an api to detect which apps are installed along side yours.

The profile being a "Uses Ad Blocker Y/N" ?

Just a handful of (binary or more) attributes such as that one are enough to tell apart a user from thousands of others.

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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Pointless, you are already in complete control of this. Just disable JS, enable it when you want. If a website doesn’t support your usecase, that’s on you, there is no ADA requirement for JS-free websites

Doesn't that same argument apply to cookie consent popups? Privacy shouldn't only be afforded to the more technical users.

Doesn't that same argument apply to cookie consent popups?

Yes! I would have much preferred the EU to make PSAs explaining how to disable cookies in browsers rather than inflicting popups on billions of users.

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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It allows them to create a profile of the users. Same reason android no longer has an api to detect which apps are installed along side yours.

The profile being a "Uses Ad Blocker Y/N" ?

Tied to your IP, which makes it collection of personal information. Meaning you need to consent to it and they are not allowed to do it unless it's strictly necessary in order to deliver the service, bill you and so on.

They can choose not to provide the service unless you pay.

They can also choose not to provide the service to unregistered users and give out free daily watches as a part of their marketing campaign. Then you enter a simple contract by opening an account and agreeing to their terms.

Terms which can include data collection, but it has to be possible to opt-out from it without losing access to the service.

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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It allows them to create a profile of the users. Same reason android no longer has an api to detect which apps are installed along side yours.

The profile being a "Uses Ad Blocker Y/N" ?

I was under the false impression they have hash that was created by playing the ad and got that back to confirm the ad ran somehow.

I'm not familiar with tbh because the idea of working on ad software and SEO seem like the most boring possibly ethically dubious jobs.

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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While highly recommended. Outside of the tech crowd, uMatrix is a maze to organise and most folk don't care that they are planted with tracking cookies.

For those users, there is uBlock Origin. Actually, I think it's the recommended suggestion by their developer for all users, isn't uMatrix no longer supported with uBlock Origin including many of it's features?

I'm still using uMatrix. I don't really understand why uMatrix was abandoned, its UI is miles ahead what uBlock Origin offers.

Re: YouTube's Adblock detection might break the law in the EU

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post #32

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Pointless, you are already in complete control of this. Just disable JS, enable it when you want. If a website doesn’t support your usecase, that’s on you, there is no ADA requirement for JS-free websites

Doesn't that same argument apply to cookie consent popups? Privacy shouldn't only be afforded to the more technical users.

Cookie consent popups are not mandated by the GDPR (the EU privacy law), they’re just a stupid (and often infringing) reaction to it.

The GDPR disallows tracking without consent, but more in the spirit of “don’t track” than “get consent”. It also specifies that conditions should be clear, and that not granting consent (or withdrawing it) should be as simple as granting it. It even specifies that sites that request private information from kids should be clearer, because they need to understand what they’re accepting even if their guardians will provide the consent.

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