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Omegle 2009-2023

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#861

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Children shouldn't be browsing the internet without supervision. If they do I'd argue their parents should be regulated more, not the internet.

How old were you when you first used the internet, and how supervised were you?

10. Very. It was a bad time for a curious mind.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#863

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Children shouldn't be browsing the internet without supervision. If they do I'd argue their parents should be regulated more, not the internet.

How old were you when you first used the internet, and how supervised were you?

I was probably 13, not supervised, but it was also too early. I saw things I would have liked not to see and I did things I am not proud of because I lacked the maturity to evaluate consequences.

Luckily nobody took advantage of me to my knowledge, but it would have been easy.

I believe my parents didn't know what was possible on the internet back then.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#864

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Multiple years ago it was something to us - something new. There are too many people who do not care about it (similar services) these days, people are born with the internet and just take it for granted. Another analogy could be the gas car industry. We just look at it differently nowadays, we prioritize pollution and do not think much of the fact that you could easily travel around the world in any of these gas guz…

> yet many want to just kill it off. That's not because we take what cars can do for granted, it's because individual traffic is a major contributor to the mechanism that is actively killing our habitat. That isn't an opinion, it's a proven, peer reviewed, often-challenged-never-falsified fact. And no, EVs will not make that better. They are just a different instance of the same problem. So yes, we do want to "kill o…

What do you think of the argument that EVs actually do make this better, albeit not entirely, due to the efficiency difference between[0] (coal-fired) power plants and internal combustion engines in gasoline powered vehicles?

[0] https://blog.ucsusa.org/jimmy-odea/electric-vs-diesel-vs-nat...

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Twitter, Facebook, Gmail, Telegram, WhatsApp, Zoom and all those companies with UGC have this, responsible ones report it (Meta does lots, not sure Twitter does anymore, Telegram never did). > I don't get how they can sue Omegle for this. Take it as a sign that if tech community doesn't wake up and own up to this and try to solve the issue somehow then not just individual services but the entire idea of e2ee messagin…

I'm not sure exactly the tech community needs to own up to. Allowing an 11 year old who has irresponsible parents to use the internet? Do tech companies need to verify government issued IDs to register new users?

That would be a reasonable solution if there would be any government who could provide a digital attestation scheme that allows to prove attributes without giving out the identity. Afaik it's possible technically. Just not wanted apparently

Like proving I am at least 18 years old without giving out my birth date or name.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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In that article she was 11 when using Omegle. She was using internet without appropriate supervision. That's almost like allowing a kid to drive a car, leading to an accident, and then trying to ban cars because they are dangerous to kids. The internet is a great place, but it's an adult place. You can find absolutely horrible (adult) things on wikipedia that a kid should not be learning about at the age of 11. And I…

The legal situation is more complicated than blaming the parents. To extend your analogy: If someone had a business that rented cars and somehow 11 year olds were renting the cars and driving them, the rental car company couldn’t shrug it off and blame the parents. That’s why this is complicated: If a business knows criminal or dangerous activity is taking place on their platform, there is some obligation to make a g…

In this case, the car is the internet itself.

Every form of social media is an open window for groomers and filled with abuse. You just don't see it as openly, and it's often relegated to DMs. But Instagram, X, Snapchat, Discord, Reddit, YouTube etc... and there are hundreds of influencers who use TikTok or other platforms to market their OnlyFans content, sometimes specifically focusing on younger demographics.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#867

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In that article she was 11 when using Omegle. She was using internet without appropriate supervision. That's almost like allowing a kid to drive a car, leading to an accident, and then trying to ban cars because they are dangerous to kids. The internet is a great place, but it's an adult place. You can find absolutely horrible (adult) things on wikipedia that a kid should not be learning about at the age of 11. And I…

The legal situation is more complicated than blaming the parents. To extend your analogy: If someone had a business that rented cars and somehow 11 year olds were renting the cars and driving them, the rental car company couldn’t shrug it off and blame the parents. That’s why this is complicated: If a business knows criminal or dangerous activity is taking place on their platform, there is some obligation to make a g…

Did the 11 year old set up and pay for internet access?

Sounds more like an 11 year old stole their parents' rental car and the family turned around and sued the rental car company. It's a stretch to even suggest Omegle was akin to "rental car company" since they didn't charge, it was more like a P2P car sharing app.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#868
post #758

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> A park is in public view. > A library is in public view. And yet heinous acts of abuse/violence/etc have occurred in both. By your logic, we should pave all the parks and burn down the libraries.

How many sex crimes are reported in your local park? Hundreds of thousands were reported to Omegle.

You've got an axe to grind don't you? Does it really not seem obvious to you that the damage of a single sexual harassment in a park outweighs any number of online interactions?

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#869
Is there a specific political action group or organization behind the pressure Omegle received that isn’t being called out? Or is it just that the general social context has enabled people across the board to attack more freedoms more successfully. If anything I think the pendulum is slowly starting to swing back but maybe not on the “for the children” front.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#870

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Ah, “for the children”. The best argument there is to deprive you of all the rights possible.

Really? We want to protect the rights of pedophiles? Where could this argument be going.

We want to protect the rights of every single human being without a single exception.
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