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Ask HN: Should we plan for a life after HN?

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Ask HN: Should we plan for a life after HN?

#1
While reading about the death of Omegle, I came across this comment and it sent a chill down my spine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38201035 ("Omegles come and go, but "[how is it] hacker news?" is here forever.")

Although the comment was not necessarily about the longevity of HN itself, it made me realise that HN, like any other online forum, has a finite lifespan. At some point it will end (although that seems like a distant possibility right now).

Should we plan for this? I.e. building some sort of mirror platform with the same profiles, same data and as much of the algorithm as possible, with the agreement that we meet there should HN unexpectedly meets its demise.

I understand that a huge part of why HN works is dang. I'm unsure how we mirror him though.

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#2
I worry about this myself. I feel like HN is the last refuge of what the old Internet was supposed to be like.

I'm not sure it can be replicated. The future of the Internet seems to me to be small private "hidden" communities and mega platforms filled with garbage. No room for a middle

Maybe a paid platform?

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#3
> it made me realise that HN, like any other online forum, has a finite lifespan

Everything we touch has a finite lifespan, and I don't think that's the important thing to think about.

I would further comment, but the guidelines[0] last point says not to.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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#7
assume nothing will exist "forever"

HN will one day go the way of the dodo bird

Whether that is in a month, year, decade, or century is up for realization

But like every other website/service in existence ... it will have its time, and it will fade/die eventually

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I worry about this myself. I feel like HN is the last refuge of what the old Internet was supposed to be like. I'm not sure it can be replicated. The future of the Internet seems to me to be small private "hidden" communities and mega platforms filled with garbage. No room for a middle Maybe a paid platform?

Either a private, paid platform, or a Wikipedia-like foundation that relies on donations.

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#9
Should we plan for a life after HN?

There is no need to wait for such an event. In my opinion what makes this site unique is how it is run rather than the tech. One could make note(s) of how Daniel manages this site and try their hand at mimicking the patterns on existing sites. People could attempt to replicate something close to his methodology, guidelines and levels of engagement on their own self hosted Postmill, Mastodon, Forums, Chat sites, etc... In my opinion there is no harm in having multiple great sites.

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I worry about this myself. I feel like HN is the last refuge of what the old Internet was supposed to be like. I'm not sure it can be replicated. The future of the Internet seems to me to be small private "hidden" communities and mega platforms filled with garbage. No room for a middle Maybe a paid platform?

I'm also tempted to start by thinking about the moneys — after all it's hard to be sustainable without revenue. But that's only part of the problem and money is by no means a solution. Indeed the revenue streams discovered by Google and Meta — while responsible for the financial success of those companies — are also responsible for disinformation and degrading quality from user perspective.

If the thing that makes HN enjoyable is the community, maybe we should see it more as a commons and worry about how it is/can/should be governed. Taking Wikipedia as an example, if the worst that comes out of the money problem is an occasional desperate plea from Jimmy Wales begging for a small donation, I'm perfectly happy.

Would it be possible to foster a similar community using a platform like Mastodon? If, yes — it might already exist... Anyone have a pointer?

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