Servo announces grant from the NLnet Foundation
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Re: Servo announces grant from the NLnet Foundation
#2It's cool to see the work on Servo since Igalia picked it up. There was a lot of tech debt to work through due to years of minimal maintenance, but they seem to have been making real progress.
My personal hope is they push hard on the modularity angle. Seems to me that:
1) there's probably a niche to be filled by an OSS browser engine focussed on embedability
and
2) That it could be a huge boon for the long-term health of the web platform if there are build-your-own-browser "lego building block" libraries that people can mix and match to create new engines.
Re: Servo announces grant from the NLnet Foundation
#3I'm very excited about Servo. Can't believe Mozilla wasn't interested in it.
Not only the idea of an engine with great security and performance is an excellent one, but I also love the idea of a web engine as a component. This for some reason seems to have disappeared in modern times.
IE used to have an ActiveX control back in the Windows 9x days. You could embed a web engine anywhere you wanted. KHTML also worked like that. And in modern times... nothing. Neither Firefox nor Chrome seem to have interest in that kind of usage. Qt WebEngine thankfully exists, but in my understanding has a bit of an antagonistic relationship with Chrome, because Chrome doesn't care for that kind of use.
Plus Chrome is a Google thing, and Google things in my experience are their own world, making them annoying to build and integrate.
So I'm very much looking forward to having a viable alternative to integrate into our code. Both solving security concerns and hopefully making the integration less painful.
Re: Servo announces grant from the NLnet Foundation
#4The money for this grant actually comes, in part, from the European Commission (via the NGI programme).
Re: Servo announces grant from the NLnet Foundation
#5That is great news for Servo! NLNet Foundation has been funding a lot of great projects lately. I see their name pop up a lot.
Re: Servo announces grant from the NLnet Foundation
#6I'm very excited about Servo. Can't believe Mozilla wasn't interested in it. Not only the idea of an engine with great security and performance is an excellent one, but I also love the idea of a web engine as a component. This for some reason seems to have disappeared in modern times. IE used to have an ActiveX control back in the Windows 9x days. You could embed a web engine anywhere you wanted. KHTML also worked li…
> Can't believe Mozilla wasn't interested in it
The fact that mozilla wasn’t interested in that really tells a lot about their priorities
Re: Servo announces grant from the NLnet Foundation
#7It's cool to see the work on Servo since Igalia picked it up. There was a lot of tech debt to work through due to years of minimal maintenance, but they seem to have been making real progress. My personal hope is they push hard on the modularity angle. Seems to me that: 1) there's probably a niche to be filled by an OSS browser engine focussed on embedability and 2) That it could be a huge boon for the long-term heal…
Wild speculation: With iphones being forced to open their web engine there might be some apps interested in embedding their own engines across mobile devices.
Re: Servo announces grant from the NLnet Foundation
#8What's this "Legacy Layout" they're using as a comparison? The previous iteration of Servo? Looks like some of the code is still used by both, as the curves sometimes (but not always) go up and down at the same time...
Re: Servo announces grant from the NLnet Foundation
#9I'm very excited about Servo. Can't believe Mozilla wasn't interested in it. Not only the idea of an engine with great security and performance is an excellent one, but I also love the idea of a web engine as a component. This for some reason seems to have disappeared in modern times. IE used to have an ActiveX control back in the Windows 9x days. You could embed a web engine anywhere you wanted. KHTML also worked li…
> Can't believe Mozilla wasn't interested in it The fact that mozilla wasn’t interested in that really tells a lot about their priorities
Or they (Firefox folks) learned what happens when you (Netscape) try a major greenfield rewrite (Netscape v5) so ambitious that it becomes the example of why one should never rewrite.
And instead just back ported the lessons learned to make Firefox/Gecko better years earlier than a rewrite could.
Re: Servo announces grant from the NLnet Foundation
#10I'm very excited about Servo. Can't believe Mozilla wasn't interested in it. Not only the idea of an engine with great security and performance is an excellent one, but I also love the idea of a web engine as a component. This for some reason seems to have disappeared in modern times. IE used to have an ActiveX control back in the Windows 9x days. You could embed a web engine anywhere you wanted. KHTML also worked li…
> Can't believe Mozilla wasn't interested in it The fact that mozilla wasn’t interested in that really tells a lot about their priorities
They fired everyone working on it and completely abandoned it while giving the CEO a million dollar pay raise the same year.
When are we going to talk about how openly corrupt Mozilla has become? They clearly have issues at the top that need to be fixed for the betterment of web.