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Re: Sad clown paradox

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Here's a conversation between two British comedians I enjoy talking about something very similar, you might enjoy it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZZ9uXomhg

You might want to check the news about Russel Brand. Probably not the best person to link to.

Try to Separate the art from the artist here, the clip is worth watching if you have 15mins

Re: Sad clown paradox

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I did a clowning masterclass in France a few months ago. (That was a whole, wild experience that I’ll be haunted by for years). While I was there I realised I’ve been operating under a certain kind of dumb philosophy my whole life without realising it. The philosophy is something like this: “I believe if I’m “good” enough, nobody will reject me for being “bad” and people will like me.” And fill in whatever you want f…

I can't seem to resist the urge of asking, what was haunting about it?

Re: Sad clown paradox

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Almost all comedians are fucked up emotionally, it's kind of a truism. Only the most desperate for approval go through as much work, practice and humiliation it takes to occasionally get laughs

I do it for the challenge and community mostly. Comics are pretty funny and very inclusive. Delivering jokes to strangers takes a lot of courage, and as you said, to actually get laughs takes a lot of work, practice, and humiliation

Re: Sad clown paradox

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The symbol of happy/sad drama masks (Thalia and Melpomene) is an ancient reference to this same dynamic. Was prompted to look up the definition of the word "pathetic," recently, and it means evocativeness of emotion, but typically sympathy or pity instead of laughter. Being comical and pathetic seem like the same thing, we just don't understand the word well because it's an epithet in pop culture that nobody consider…

This immediately brought the Dolly Parton song Jolene into my head.

First time I heard it I was struck with how pathetic it was. It was very jarring hearing a superstar like Dolly singing from such a position of inferiority.

But the song is incredible. You feel her feelings of inadequacy so deeply. It's a masterful example of this mechanic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixrje2rXLMA

Re: Sad clown paradox

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That joke’s got a whole section in the article.

Yeah they really fluff the delivery of it though, basically give you the punchline first and then at the end reproduce a purposely bad retelling of it in full.

It wouldn't be Wikipedia if they didn't stomp all over the joke.

Re: Sad clown paradox

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to check the news about Russel Brand. Probably not the best person to link to.

Try to Separate the art from the artist here, the clip is worth watching if you have 15mins

Also the interesting bits are from Richard Ayoade, who as far as I know isn't a rapist.

Re: Sad clown paradox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a conversation between two British comedians I enjoy talking about something very similar, you might enjoy it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZZ9uXomhg

You might want to check the news about Russel Brand. Probably not the best person to link to.

What, that he was a sex addict for much of his career and made some regrettable choices during that time? I'm aware. He's mentioned it once or twice.

Re: Sad clown paradox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a conversation between two British comedians I enjoy talking about something very similar, you might enjoy it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZZ9uXomhg

You might want to check the news about Russel Brand. Probably not the best person to link to.

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