PHP: A fractal of bad design
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PHP: A fractal of bad design
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Re: PHP: A fractal of bad design
#2This is just another example of someone beating a dead horse (which has already been beaten) for page views. Next week we'll have another "bash php" post, and the week after that another.
I wish people spent as much time creating new things as they did bitching. As well written as this article is, it contains absolutely nothing that hasn't been said ten thousand times already- in fact, most of this seems to be regurgitated from those other articles rather than being actual original thought. Some of the issues brought up have been depreciated and removed a long time ago- too bad the author didn't limit his google search to the last year when looking for other people's examples to post.
Re: PHP: A fractal of bad design
#3A nice long list of things all concisely put into one blog - I'm sure this took some time to write. Can we move on though? Seriously - no one's forcing you to use PHP, so in your own worlds "It has paltry few redeeming qualities and I would prefer to forget it exists at all." do just that - forget it exists and wake up tomorrow a bit less grumpy. Trust me, you'll feel better!
Re: PHP: A fractal of bad design
#4This is just another example of someone beating a dead horse (which has already been beaten) for page views. Next week we'll have another "bash php" post, and the week after that another. I wish people spent as much time creating new things as they did bitching. As well written as this article is, it contains absolutely nothing that hasn't been said ten thousand times already- in fact, most of this seems to be regurg…
For someone coming from other language background, including C#, JavaScript, Ruby, I find PHP absolutely unconventional, odd, unexpected, and inconsistent.
This is not a language, where you expect intuitively on what method to call unless you do a StackOverFlow search on existing problems, raised by others like me.
Yet, I currently develop a web app on PHP. Certainly, I can't wait to move over to Ruby or other languages in my next project.
The author is stating the obvious. But he/she has every right to do so, because PHP is simply not user friendly enough to programmer. If PHP truly targets non-programmer, they totally succeed in their goal.
Re: PHP: A fractal of bad design
#5This is just another example of someone beating a dead horse (which has already been beaten) for page views. Next week we'll have another "bash php" post, and the week after that another. I wish people spent as much time creating new things as they did bitching. As well written as this article is, it contains absolutely nothing that hasn't been said ten thousand times already- in fact, most of this seems to be regurg…
Make your mind up—should I have spent less time on this or more? :)
Like I said, I wrote it to get this /out/ of my system; I am now impervious to PHP arguments. Either this will convince someone or it will not. Done.
Re: PHP: A fractal of bad design
#6This is just another example of someone beating a dead horse (which has already been beaten) for page views. Next week we'll have another "bash php" post, and the week after that another. I wish people spent as much time creating new things as they did bitching. As well written as this article is, it contains absolutely nothing that hasn't been said ten thousand times already- in fact, most of this seems to be regurg…
Make your mind up—should I have spent less time on this or more? :) Like I said, I wrote it to get this /out/ of my system; I am now impervious to PHP arguments. Either this will convince someone or it will not. Done.
The analogy alone was AWESOME :)
Well done. Nice to get it out.
Re: PHP: A fractal of bad design
#7This is just another example of someone beating a dead horse (which has already been beaten) for page views. Next week we'll have another "bash php" post, and the week after that another. I wish people spent as much time creating new things as they did bitching. As well written as this article is, it contains absolutely nothing that hasn't been said ten thousand times already- in fact, most of this seems to be regurg…
For someone coming from other language background, including C#, JavaScript, Ruby, I find PHP absolutely unconventional, odd, unexpected, and inconsistent. This is not a language, where you expect intuitively on what method to call unless you do a StackOverFlow search on existing problems, raised by others like me. Yet, I currently develop a web app on PHP. Certainly, I can't wait to move over to Ruby or other langua…
I'm not defending PHP, and I'm not claiming the author "has no right" to make their post. What I am saying is that this post has no value, as it's simply a summary of the same posts we see here week after week. This isn't just stating the obvious, this is literally rehashing the posts (he even cites the sources, which I do commend him on) that have already been made.
The point is the PHP circle jerk is getting old. I don't see the value in repeating the same discussions every day, and most of these posts just reek of exploitation- these authors know php bashing will get upvoted, so they write an article, submit it here, and wait for the traffic to pour into their otherwise unknown blog. I just think we'd all be better off if they actually wrote something useful.
Re: PHP: A fractal of bad design
#8This is just another example of someone beating a dead horse (which has already been beaten) for page views. Next week we'll have another "bash php" post, and the week after that another. I wish people spent as much time creating new things as they did bitching. As well written as this article is, it contains absolutely nothing that hasn't been said ten thousand times already- in fact, most of this seems to be regurg…
Make your mind up—should I have spent less time on this or more? :) Like I said, I wrote it to get this /out/ of my system; I am now impervious to PHP arguments. Either this will convince someone or it will not. Done.
I think you should have spent less time on this and more time on something else. I thought that was pretty clear.
Re: PHP: A fractal of bad design
#9Oh! Do one on motherboard design next! Or the highway system of the eastern US. Or, as others already said, just realize it's warped beyond repair and hindsight is 20/20 for all involved. Very very very comprehensive post, but... yeah.
Re: PHP: A fractal of bad design
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
For someone coming from other language background, including C#, JavaScript, Ruby, I find PHP absolutely unconventional, odd, unexpected, and inconsistent. This is not a language, where you expect intuitively on what method to call unless you do a StackOverFlow search on existing problems, raised by others like me. Yet, I currently develop a web app on PHP. Certainly, I can't wait to move over to Ruby or other langua…
I'm not defending PHP, and I'm not claiming the author "has no right" to make their post. What I am saying is that this post has no value, as it's simply a summary of the same posts we see here week after week. This isn't just stating the obvious, this is literally rehashing the posts (he even cites the sources, which I do commend him on) that have already been made. The point is the PHP circle jerk is getting old. I…
To be fair, while the author is a friend of mine, he's not the one who submitted it, nor did I consult him before doing so. So if anyone can be claimed to be exploiting this for upvotes, it's myself, not him.