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Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

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Post by Zagitta »

matthewfelgate wrote: post #17
malermeister wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They won't. The movie industry has been trying to stop piracy with technical measures forever. Things still get pirated. Every measure they take will be broken. They'll win over the masses, which is what they really care about. But they won't ever defeat the die-hards.

Netflix killed Torrents. Spotify killed Napster.

Torrenting is on the rise again since the golden era of streaming where Netflix gave you access to everything has ended.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/digital-cont...

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Post by SonicScrub »

matthewfelgate wrote: post #17
malermeister wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They won't. The movie industry has been trying to stop piracy with technical measures forever. Things still get pirated. Every measure they take will be broken. They'll win over the masses, which is what they really care about. But they won't ever defeat the die-hards.

Netflix killed Torrents. Spotify killed Napster.

By providing a better service. Not by combatting the pirates in a technological arms race. Incidentally, movie/TV piracy is on the rise again as streaming has become more fragmented and more expensive.

https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/25/streaming-video-piracy/#:~:te...

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Post by lkramer »

matthewfelgate wrote: post #17
malermeister wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They won't. The movie industry has been trying to stop piracy with technical measures forever. Things still get pirated. Every measure they take will be broken. They'll win over the masses, which is what they really care about. But they won't ever defeat the die-hards.

Netflix killed Torrents. Spotify killed Napster.

Netflix had the chance to become the Steam of Movies, effectively killing piracy in the field, however between every company creating their own streaming service and hiking prices, my (admittedly anecdotal) impression is that some people are going back to pirating at least some of the time.

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Post by simbolit »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #18
malermeister wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They won't. The movie industry has been trying to stop piracy with technical measures forever. Things still get pirated. Every measure they take will be broken. They'll win over the masses, which is what they really care about. But they won't ever defeat the die-hards.

And even the die-hards will lose convenience, reverse engineering a custom WASM VM every time it's updated is massive work. And TPM checks are really hard to bypass. All that to watch a few videos without a 20 second ads? Not sure it's event worth it.

That's why you don't do it, but the die-hards do.

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Post by mocha_nate »

djoldman wrote: post #5

uBlock has been working fine. If you get blocked from youtube, you can go to uBlock options, click purge all caches, then "Update Now." Do a full reload in youtube and you're good to go. Tactics are changing continually.

Brave browser works for me on both desktop and iPhone

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 »

simbolit wrote: post #6
repelsteeltje wrote: post #3

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I see what you mean about Google's greed. But to be perfectly honoust there is some greed on our behalf as well. The "contract" with YouTube being: don't pay us in $$$, give us your privacy — by attempting to use without revealing our privacy gold we're somewhat free loading, being greedy. It would be better to reject the "contract" and find different ways to access the content without relying on Google's "free" dist…

You would think controlling what the world watches via algorithms with no oversight whatsoever would be a valuable thing to have. But having that AND getting ad money is more valuable, of course, so they do it.

They also get all of your information/habits/etc.. It's pretty sweet being an all powerful tech company.

Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

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Post by malermeister »

matthewfelgate wrote: post #17
malermeister wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They won't. The movie industry has been trying to stop piracy with technical measures forever. Things still get pirated. Every measure they take will be broken. They'll win over the masses, which is what they really care about. But they won't ever defeat the die-hards.

Netflix killed Torrents. Spotify killed Napster.

Torrents are back big-time because Netflix became too annoying and video streaming too fragmented.

https://torrentfreak.com/online-piracy-continues-to-rise-wit...

https://torrentfreak.com/sharp-rise-in-piracy-rates-across-s...

Re: YouTube's ban leads to a record number of users uninstalling their ad-blockers

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Post by Ekaros »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #13
mrweasel wrote: post #9

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> but even if not, YouTube is being greedy here While I agree with the greedy part, what do you specifically suggest they do? If they do nothing then the people without an adblocker are effectively subsidizing those who don't see the ads, resulting in them seeing more ads. If you don't want ads there's YouTube Premium ( even if it sucks that you need to get YouTube Music at the same time ). The worst part of that dea…

I think Google should offer a paid tier like YouTube premium, but with the following feautures: (1) You can opt out of any analytics and tracking (2) They would turn off ads for your OWN channel. So for example, if I have a channel and I pay for premium, then I should be able to TURN OFF ads so that OTHERS who view my channel don't see ads. If Google had these features, I would buy premium in a heartbeat.

If we consider popular channels I wonder if single premium subscription is enough to cover the costs.

Maybe Youtube could become actual hosting platform and allow creators and companies to pay some fee per minute of streaming at each resolution.

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