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Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by zx8080 »

Gud wrote: post #143
zx8080 wrote: post #127

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> or I'd have nothing to boot instead! Don't be too happy as SecureBoot will not make you want too long until required to register your free software in some 3-4 letter government agency to be able to boot it. At least in Europe.

The European Union and Europe are not synonymous. Switzerland has strong privacy laws because it’s a country ruled by its people, not by political bureaucrats. It is not inevitable that we will lose our rights. Don’t give up, don’t spread a defeatist attitude. Work towards improving the democratic system.

Any such system is fatally corrupted by NYMBYzm and for money.

There are literally no hope for any democratic system against corporations with billions on their accounts. Any meaningful principle cannot withstand years of erosion via libbying.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by MagnumOpus »

nerdjon wrote: post #68
JohnTHaller wrote: post #56

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Yeah, Windows tries to constantly trick you into using a Microsoft account and storing your Desktop, Documents, etc in OneDrive online. The reason is simple: money. When you inevitably run out of space, you can't save anything else. And you can no longer use your linked Hotmail account. I had to explain to my Dad's 80+ year old neighbor why she couldn't email photos with her kids and then try and fix the messed up Wi…

It is interesting because in many ways Apple does the same thing with Mac. They push iCloud fairly heavily. But it feels like when you need to disable it or whatever it's not jumping through hoops. If I want to disable iCloud Drive on my Mac, as long as I wasn't working out of iCloud Drive things just keep working as expected.

It is though. Take the example of the Books app on iOS. If you enable iCloud, it uploads third-party documents and books into its cloud - so far so good. If you discontinue iCloud (or even just disable the annoying upload-and-delete-local-copy for the Books app), every one of your books disappears, being held hostage by Apple. You literally have to then copy every single book that you bought elsewhere into the Books app again.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by DoctorDabadedoo »

avery17 wrote: post #106
DoctorDabadedoo wrote: post #53

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LTSC in a consumer machine is for sure pirated, no? Not sure that is better than just sticking to windows 10 post EOL.

You act like we don't all already have pirated copies of windows. Might as well get security updates.

I'm not all that concerned with the legality of it and more about the chain of trust, if there is need to download images/tools from shady websites for the thing just to work.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by DoctorDabadedoo »

HelixEndeavor wrote: post #79
DoctorDabadedoo wrote: post #53

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LTSC in a consumer machine is for sure pirated, no? Not sure that is better than just sticking to windows 10 post EOL.

"pirated" yes but you can often source the install images direct from Microsoft and then use open source tools to crack the activation systems. Microsoft has kind of stopped policing piracy at the individual user level, you can even download Windows cracking tools off GitHub, a platform that Microsoft owns. As long as you're using their software it makes them happy. And LTSC is worth it to have a barebones no-bullshi…

Didn't know you could get the base images directly from Microsoft, safe third party tools to validate the installation would still concern me, unfortunately.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by projektfu »

namlem wrote: post #138
projektfu wrote: post #43

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I get it, there's usually another metric that's at fault. Increasing Edge browser use by underhanded techniques on every install is easier than convincing users to install it. Boosting MSN hits by having a hundred million computers constantly downloading content is easier than making content people share. But the net result is going to be more of us opting out. It's a real Yahoo approach.

The sad thing is, aside from the feature bloat, Edge is actually very good in terms of performance. And it has genuinely useful features like vertical tabs, workspaces, etc.

Agree. I put up with it on Windows in spite of its flaws for that reason. It's frustrating that many of the little "features" you have to disable are not considered part of your profile so you log into a different computer and you have Bing again. At least they made the new tab settings sticky.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

Tommstein wrote: post #81
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #72

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> At this point, anyone willingly subjecting themselves to their bullcrap (as opposed to having it forced on them by work) has only themselves to blame. Yeah. That and their employers, customer base, relatives, biz associates....

> Yeah. That and their employers, customer base, relatives, biz associates.... You found a wealth of ways to repeat the word "work."

It could be joy.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by M95D »

zx8080 wrote: post #151
Gud wrote: post #143

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The European Union and Europe are not synonymous. Switzerland has strong privacy laws because it’s a country ruled by its people, not by political bureaucrats. It is not inevitable that we will lose our rights. Don’t give up, don’t spread a defeatist attitude. Work towards improving the democratic system.

Any such system is fatally corrupted by NYMBYzm and for money. There are literally no hope for any democratic system against corporations with billions on their accounts. Any meaningful principle cannot withstand years of erosion via libbying.

Go visit Switzerland. Reply after you return.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by M95D »

hypeatei wrote: post #76
Sharlin wrote: post #19

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Windows 7 (Pro/Ultimate) will probably remain the least bad Windows ever released. Shame.

I miss Windows 7 so much. Apart from the slightly dated, although not bad UI, it would hold up just fine today if they didn't abandon it. No junkware pre-installed, consistent settings interfaces (not three ways to configure a setting), and no telemetry or dark patterns.

> and no telemetry

Wrong. Look in Scheduled Tasks.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by Gud »

zx8080 wrote: post #151
Gud wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The European Union and Europe are not synonymous. Switzerland has strong privacy laws because it’s a country ruled by its people, not by political bureaucrats. It is not inevitable that we will lose our rights. Don’t give up, don’t spread a defeatist attitude. Work towards improving the democratic system.

Any such system is fatally corrupted by NYMBYzm and for money. There are literally no hope for any democratic system against corporations with billions on their accounts. Any meaningful principle cannot withstand years of erosion via libbying.

Any basis for these claims?

I suggest you fly to Zürich. It's like stepping into a bright future.

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