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A quarter of Swiss population is foreign-born. Not quite like NYC, but very high in international comparisons.
A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open
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Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open
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> Two-hundred books were taken out, presumably without anyone having to log their names. The article states that every book taken out was returned. I see two alternatives: 1. The staff conducted a full inventory a couple of weeks after the incident and confirmed that every book is still there. (By the way, at what rate are books smuggled out even during regular opening hours?) 2. The books that were taken out were bo…
Perfectly possible, but if there were no staff, that means that the denizens of Gothenburg were conscientious enough to police themselves. They checked out their books even though they probably could have just walked out the front door with them.
Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open
#83If you leave your wallet on the ground in a park in SF, the chances you’ll get it back are probably pretty high. If you leave it in your locked car, your car will probably get broken into. Thieves are strategic. They’re not looking around in parks for lost wallets, nor are they going to libraries hoping they can lift a bunch of unattended books.
I don't want to give them any ideas, but some books are expensive/of high value/rare/etc.
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#84I long been waiting for the day to use any store anytime I want. I like to do things late night, like going to the groceries or the market, but it's hard to find any shop that is open around 3AM. Never understood, that after strong authentication, why can't I enter a shop, buy whatever I want, then leave.
In Belgium, one supermarket did exactly this. You can even use your e-ID card to buy products with a minimum age. Article in Dutch: https://www.colruytgroup.com/nl/over-ons/ondersteunende-acti...
Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open
#85If you read the news every day, you might be forgiven for thinking that most people are naturally evil. In reality the vast majority are actually good, or trend towards acting in a positive manner at the very least. I've seen two sorts of IRL applications rely on this: Self checkout at stores, and sites like wikipedia and openstreetmap. Or just western society in general, if you think about it. Most of the time we tr…
I don't tend to frame anyone as good or evil. My judgement is more about whether their actions harm others or do not. In my experience, the majority of people generally don't want to cause harm to others, or don't knowingly intend to. They often do because they are ignorant of how harmful their actions can be (IMO the most common cause of people harming each other), or they may be desperate (as someone in an adjacent…
Their community failed to make them feel provided for and included, therefore what they are doing is okay: they are only taking what they are “owed”.
It’s not necessarily that they are evil or even that desperate, but rather that their previous interactions with society gave them a warped sense of justice, in which selfish behaviour and stealing is good (when they do it).
You often see this with turnstile jumpers. It’s not that they cant afford the ticket, they just think it should have been free to begin with. its mostly an act of contempt.
“I have to feed my family” is rarely the actual motivation, especially in developed countries.
Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open
#86At least in Finland it wouldn't make much difference if the library is open or not. Even when there's staff, it's up to you to scan the books you take out and the staff doesn't control this at all. Many similar situations, e.g. self-scanning items in-store and bagging them, where stealing carries essentially zero risk of getting caught, but stealing doesn't happen much.
Also, our local library recently closed down the possibility of entering with your library card at extended times, due to abuse of some kind.
Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open
#87If you leave your wallet on the ground in a park in SF, the chances you’ll get it back are probably pretty high. If you leave it in your locked car, your car will probably get broken into. Thieves are strategic. They’re not looking around in parks for lost wallets, nor are they going to libraries hoping they can lift a bunch of unattended books.
Career thieves wouldn't scour a park for wallets, no, but many people are opportunistic thieves. If they happen upon money with no one in sight, they'll just take it, without thinking it's a big deal. The case in the article matches the second model, not the first. Hundreds of people realised they were in a library with no staff. Two-hundred books were taken out, presumably without anyone having to log their names. T…
My father used to think that. Turns out it's mostly untreated paranoid shizophrenia creating self fulfilling prophecies.
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#88I recently moved with my family to an appartment in the city. My wife and I have three children under the age of ten. One big benefit that we did not see in advance is that the public library is now in walking distance to our new home. It already has become a habit to go there with the kids and join the regular reading time. The reading time is performed by a volunteer who usually reads out one book to the attending…
I miss going so regularly, and keep meaning to build it into my schedule --- apparently there are some libraries which have apartments:
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/inside-the-new-york-pu...
(which is about the one thing which would make me consider being in NYC for an extended period of time)
>Libraries will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no libraries.
--- Anne Herbert
Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open
#89If you leave your wallet on the ground in a park in SF, the chances you’ll get it back are probably pretty high. If you leave it in your locked car, your car will probably get broken into. Thieves are strategic. They’re not looking around in parks for lost wallets, nor are they going to libraries hoping they can lift a bunch of unattended books.
Career thieves wouldn't scour a park for wallets, no, but many people are opportunistic thieves. If they happen upon money with no one in sight, they'll just take it, without thinking it's a big deal. The case in the article matches the second model, not the first. Hundreds of people realised they were in a library with no staff. Two-hundred books were taken out, presumably without anyone having to log their names. T…
Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Career thieves wouldn't scour a park for wallets, no, but many people are opportunistic thieves. If they happen upon money with no one in sight, they'll just take it, without thinking it's a big deal. The case in the article matches the second model, not the first. Hundreds of people realised they were in a library with no staff. Two-hundred books were taken out, presumably without anyone having to log their names. T…
> Two-hundred books were taken out, presumably without anyone having to log their names. The article states that every book taken out was returned. I see two alternatives: 1. The staff conducted a full inventory a couple of weeks after the incident and confirmed that every book is still there. (By the way, at what rate are books smuggled out even during regular opening hours?) 2. The books that were taken out were bo…
They can only know that the items checked out were.