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Omegle 2009-2023

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Framing this as "what about the children" is an easy way to attack just about anything that's not strictly top-down from some large corporate vendor. On the other hand, I do wonder if "talk to strangers" is indeed a reasonable model. Our brains form largely on the basis of neurons talking and connecting to strangers. Clearly that model works there. But then again the neurons are simple (relatively) cells with much mo…

> Our brains form largely on the basis of neurons talking and connecting to strangers. This is nonsense. Our neurons don’t talk to strangers. They talk with other neurons from the same individual. There is more in common between any two connected neurons than between two family members. And besides there is no reason to think that what happens between cells is a good model to base human behaviour on whatsoever.

you're taking a metaphor overly serious.

Socialization is important (we have decades of documentation on how you can permanently damage a brain in mere weeks of solitary confinement), and we can't nor shouldn't have to base that socialization with the same relatives for your entire life. If only because we biologically have urges to reproduce and are aware enough of biology to know that family reproduction is a horrible idea.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#582

I wonder if using GPT-4 vision api would make moderating Omegle significantly cheaper and automated. AI could save the company.

That's like killing a mosquito with a bazooka.

Using GPT-4 vision on all users would be extremely expensive. Way simpler models can detect nudity. (and they do mention they had great success using those) And if the idea was to detect child abuse from text, it would also be quite expensive to use the language capabilities on every discussion.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#583

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What "basic behavior" is that? Anonymously video chatting strangers on the internet? Can't you already do that in many Discord servers? Or on dozens of other apps and websites (e.g. Chatroulette)? There clearly isn't anything fundamentally illegal about the practice, or these would all be shut down.

You'll notice that all of those sites have registrations where you have to create an account and affirm that you're over the age of 13 rather than just putting "Don't use this if you're under 13" in tiny print at the bottom of a page. Even Chatroulette has a big popup where you have to affirm you're over 18 and that you agree to their terms and conditions before using the site..

How does any of this assist in safety? These just sound like things they do to cover there asses.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Maybe we should create a DeFi version of this that doesn't have an owner and can't be sued. Things like Omegle should be likened to an empty grass field in the middle of town, with nobody responsible for what actually happens on it except the people who choose to be there.

This is a bad take on several levels. First the de-fi angle. You want a distributed application, no need to shoehorn crypto into there. But second and most important: the ultralibertarian angle of "you chose to be there so you take respinsabolity for whatever happens to you" is also not good. For one, there's children. For another, moderation and law enforcement is a good thing. Whatever replaces omegle will almost c…

> For one, there's children. For another, moderation and law enforcement is a good thing

I think the idea that the government has any place controlling people's ability to freely communicate in private is at least five orders of magnitude more dangerous than allowing children to communicate freely with random adults.

But I expect you're one of those people who thinks everyone should be required to wear a microphone that uploads all nearby comversations to police servers in real time to be sure nothing criminal is going on so establishing common ground will be trickier than usual.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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I miss the good ol’ days of Minitel. Imagine an internet made up almost exclusively of French people.

> Imagine an internet made up almost exclusively of French people. I'm not sure I would want to imagine that. But then, I'm German.

A fox would not want to imagine an internet made up almost exclusively of hens? ))

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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> it's turtles all the way down with nostalgia. And yet golden eras do occur, or so it would seem. I’m sure it’s hard to tell when you’re in or near one, which is an interesting topic in its own right, but it doesn’t mean we should dismiss outright the possibility that a passing era might just be taking something truly valuable with it.

Even a non-golden era can have something truly valuable. Btw, we are living in a golden age. The vast majority of humanity has never had it better.

That "golden age" is a huge cop-out for any topic that doesn't span hundreds of years

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#588

> In recent years, it seems like the whole world has become more ornery Have people always thought this (e.g. "the youth of today are lazy") or is it measurably true? I feel like it's obviously true.

> Have people always thought this [...]? Yes. https://history.stackexchange.com/q/28169

That does not support that they "_always_ thought this", it only means that this happened in the past. Another interpretation is that periods of hardship are followed by ones of stability and the generation that lived through the hardship notices differences in their young.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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It seems the real reason this lawsuit found traction while similar ones against much larger platforms is precisely because Omegle sounds like a fairly shoestring operation. Platforms with an army of lawyers can surely fend lawsuits like this off without batting an eye. Apparently Omegle doesn't have an army of lawyers.

OP doesn't mention anything about a lawsuit - got more information on that? EDIT: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64618791

article is from february

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#590

Elsewhere in the thread this article with an embedded video was linked: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64618791 The video, showing a BBC “journalist” attempting to ambush Leif, is one of the most… existentially disgusting? videos I’ve seen in a long, long time. It’s so utterly performative. Such a transparent attempt by the “journalist” at painting himself as a certain sort of person. Not a single genuine emotio…

The reporter, Joe Tidy, isn't virtue signaling. He is an honest zealot full of righteous fury. He is 100% confident he's right, just like those who killed heretics during crusades a couple thousand years ago, burned witches a few hundred years ago, or exterminated capitalists as part of Cambodian Khmer Rouge a few decades ago.

He must be stopped at all cost.
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