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A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open

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Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open

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Post by Rebelgecko »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #7
jopsen wrote: post #5

It's not unusual for local libraries in Denmark to be accessible to outside office hours using a library card. Usually, not at night -- but why close a local library in the evening. Just require library cards and add video surveillance. (you milage may vary)

Just what we need, another place with video surveillance to make it even more normalized. Orwell missed only by about thirty years.

George Orwell never had to see a homeless person throw a tantrum because the library computers' nanny-ware starting blocking the proxy he used to visit Pornhub.

Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open

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Post by fuzzfactor »

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #2

If you read the news every day, you might be forgiven for thinking that most people are naturally evil. In reality the vast majority are actually good, or trend towards acting in a positive manner at the very least. I've seen two sorts of IRL applications rely on this: Self checkout at stores, and sites like wikipedia and openstreetmap. Or just western society in general, if you think about it. Most of the time we tr…

>act of civil responsibility that spoke volumes, reaffirming the notion that a library is much more than a building; it is a cornerstone of community, education, and trust.

Also kind of like reaffirming that civilization is more than just an organized crowd, and that it can be conducted without overseeing authorities, or without inhumanity is truly possible.

Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open

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Post by pstuart »

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #2

If you read the news every day, you might be forgiven for thinking that most people are naturally evil. In reality the vast majority are actually good, or trend towards acting in a positive manner at the very least. I've seen two sorts of IRL applications rely on this: Self checkout at stores, and sites like wikipedia and openstreetmap. Or just western society in general, if you think about it. Most of the time we tr…

I think that a qualifying factor is if the citizenry is not in a state of distress (homeless, unemployed, unfed, without medical care, etc.)

Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open

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Post by anonymouskimmer »

anttisalmela wrote: post #3

It's not uncommon in Nordics to have satellite libraries with mainly self service hours where there's no staff present but you need to swipe / scan your library card to get in.

"I have a proof for this conjecture, but the last person to swipe into the library filled up all of the margins with doodles."

Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open

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Post by Moldoteck »

jopsen wrote: post #5

It's not unusual for local libraries in Denmark to be accessible to outside office hours using a library card. Usually, not at night -- but why close a local library in the evening. Just require library cards and add video surveillance. (you milage may vary)

Imo it could work like 24/7 gyms: classic operation during normal hours, video&card access for any other time. May as well add some extrafee for access during night

Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open

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Post by hollerith »

dfdz wrote: post #13

> They say a reader does not steal and a thief does not read. Profound or contrapositive [1]? P = reader Q = not steal not P = does not read not Q = Theif P - > Q not Q - > not P [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contraposition

Yes, on the logical level, the quoted passage is redundant: for the reason you indicate, either "a reader does not steal" or "a thief does not read" suffices by itself -- at least if stealing a book one time makes you a thief (as opposed to thieves' being defined as people who steal habitually).

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Kim_Bruning wrote: post #2

If you read the news every day, you might be forgiven for thinking that most people are naturally evil. In reality the vast majority are actually good, or trend towards acting in a positive manner at the very least. I've seen two sorts of IRL applications rely on this: Self checkout at stores, and sites like wikipedia and openstreetmap. Or just western society in general, if you think about it. Most of the time we tr…

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Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open

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Post by Pinus »

neom wrote: post #10

Tangentially, is it just me, or is "To date, all the books have been returned." a bit of an awkward sentence? If I were going to use "To date" - I feel like I would use it to indicate there is more to happen at a future date, but in this context, it seems there is nothing left to happen? Not trying to be pedantic or nitpick, genuinely curious if I've been using To date incorrectly.

Considering that this happened last Saturday, and today is Thursday, i.e, it has only been five days (more like four, since it's still early morning, local time, on Thursday) I find it extremely unlikely that all books have been returned by now — surely someone needs a week to get through a book?

Re: A door at a Swedish library was accidentally left open

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Post by chrismorgan »

neom wrote: post #10

Tangentially, is it just me, or is "To date, all the books have been returned." a bit of an awkward sentence? If I were going to use "To date" - I feel like I would use it to indicate there is more to happen at a future date, but in this context, it seems there is nothing left to happen? Not trying to be pedantic or nitpick, genuinely curious if I've been using To date incorrectly.

My guess: when they wrote the article, they hadn’t all been returned and it read “To date, only half of the books have been returned” or similar. Then it was updated clumsily with s/only half/all/ rather than redoing the sentence.
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