To the founder of Omegle, I would say: do not lose heart. The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice. In the end, we will prevail over those who destroy the good works of others under the guise of false victimhood and social justice, and build a very special place in hell for them, where we will condemn them for all eternity.
What makes you think the universe bends towards justice? For the last 10 years, every metric of personal and economic freedom has declined. Most countries peaked in 2007. Its starting to look like personal freedom was an anomaly and we’re now retiring to the historic norm.
Omegle 2009-2023
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Re: Omegle 2009-2023
#412This brings back some amazing memories. If I remember correctly, the original inspiration for Omegle came from 4chan; or more precisely, a user thought of stretching the limits of "anonymous free speech" to realtime communications, and came up with the idea in late 2007. The PoC server for it was nothing more than "telnet to this IP" and it was sporadically advertised on 4chan for a short while. Astonishingly, Google…
>probably-too-offensive-to-the-current-generation rabbithole 4chan offensiveness isn't so much a generational thing as it is a personality thing
Re: Omegle 2009-2023
#413Re: Omegle 2009-2023
#414Gives me chills, that was so heartfelt and raw. Hurt on all sides, but this is a bit like losing access to a public space because someone committed crimes there. One of the greatest things Omegle enabled is this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhzHV9QD0Is (Harry Mack freestyling for random Omegle matches, it was a series of 90+ episodes and brought me and others so much joy during COVID)
Or this: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5poLSRa3cpHBfiJ6wQdT... Frank Tedesco, pianist / musician meets people on Omegle, takes song requests and plays them - and for ones he doesn't know, he listens once on his phone then plays them by ear.
Re: Omegle 2009-2023
#415Somewhere along the way I feel it became normal to just let your children do whatever they want online with no supervision and no parental controls. And at the same time I do think computer providers, Windows, Mac OS and all that don't offer good enough parental control. Age verification is a problem as well, but it's foolish to think every website and app will implement proper safeguards. I mean, Omegle could simply…
> Somewhere along the way I feel it became normal to just let your children do whatever they want online with no supervision and no parental controls. for those of us who were kids when the internet was basically a social unknown, it's not something that 'became normal', the internet didn't come about censored from the get-go -- these moderation/censorship tools were added in after-the-fact to cope with parental and…
That said, parents could decide to let their kids use adult user accounts, maybe supervised, or if they trust their child, or depending on their exact age. And if they do, they'd be taking the liability, not the platform whose EULA specifies otherwise.
At least this all seems a much better approach to balance safety of children on the internet, while leaving adults to have whatever free and wild spaces they want for themselves.
The alternative seems to block it for everyone. Or to have some ridiculous requirements like full blown KYC that either mean complete loss of anonymity for everyone, or unsustainable rules that indirectly mean it's not tenable to offer such spaces even to adults.
Re: Omegle 2009-2023
#416Have people always thought this (e.g. "the youth of today are lazy") or is it measurably true?
I feel like it's obviously true.
Re: Omegle 2009-2023
#417Earlier quoted context omitted.
/ alt.binaries.* enters the chat
At one point I was doing support calls for a small regional ISP, and a customer called in about some alt.binaries. group with bestiality in the name. Apparently the feed was behind or something, and he was personally offended. I learned a lot of things that day, none of them good.
Re: Omegle 2009-2023
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#419Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Where you looked at what people did with The Web 2.0 and only marveled at the possibilities of what could come. Truly feels like the death of one of the old guard, a Usenet-of-the-2010s. This is funny to me, because I am old enough to remember when web 2.0 was new, and people were nostalgic for 'web 1.0'. (And, of course, it's turtles all the way down with nostalgia.)
> it's turtles all the way down with nostalgia. And yet golden eras do occur, or so it would seem. I’m sure it’s hard to tell when you’re in or near one, which is an interesting topic in its own right, but it doesn’t mean we should dismiss outright the possibility that a passing era might just be taking something truly valuable with it.
Btw, we are living in a golden age. The vast majority of humanity has never had it better.
Re: Omegle 2009-2023
#420Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Where you looked at what people did with The Web 2.0 and only marveled at the possibilities of what could come. Truly feels like the death of one of the old guard, a Usenet-of-the-2010s. This is funny to me, because I am old enough to remember when web 2.0 was new, and people were nostalgic for 'web 1.0'. (And, of course, it's turtles all the way down with nostalgia.)
> it's turtles all the way down with nostalgia. And yet golden eras do occur, or so it would seem. I’m sure it’s hard to tell when you’re in or near one, which is an interesting topic in its own right, but it doesn’t mean we should dismiss outright the possibility that a passing era might just be taking something truly valuable with it.