Closing fees plus realtor fees are a big reason why it takes so long for a home to break even for most people - something like 7 years in NYC. And one reason why there's so much pressure for home prices to keep going up. The cost of selling a home and buying another one also makes the labor market less dynamic - people find it harder to move to where there's better opportunities.
After a $1.8B verdict, the clock is ticking on the 6% realtor commission
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Re: After a $1.8B verdict, the clock is ticking on the 6% realtor commission
#22I read the article, but I still don't understand how the National Association of Retailers enforce the 5-6% total commission. Does anyone know? The incidence question (is the fee "paid" by the buyer or seller) is a semantic one, but if the cartel is able to inflate the total fees, that's something else entirely.
Re: After a $1.8B verdict, the clock is ticking on the 6% realtor commission
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Add mortgage insurance in there too
And title insurance
Now whether that’s worth .5-1% is debatable.
Re: After a $1.8B verdict, the clock is ticking on the 6% realtor commission
#24I read the article, but I still don't understand how the National Association of Retailers enforce the 5-6% total commission. Does anyone know? The incidence question (is the fee "paid" by the buyer or seller) is a semantic one, but if the cartel is able to inflate the total fees, that's something else entirely.
It's mostly due to the fact that in order to list a house or find a house you need to use a system called MLS. In order to use the system you need to be a realtor. It's quite simple actually
You can put your house up on Craigslist, Facebook marketplace, make your own website, put a sign on your front lawn, etc.
But most people predict they will earn per time they invest in selling by going with MLS, where the home buying audience is largest.
Re: After a $1.8B verdict, the clock is ticking on the 6% realtor commission
#25Real estate sales is an industry rife with anti-competitive and corrupt practices. Appraisals, home inspections, lending, and sales are all in it together on this. I absolutely loathe them.
If you're not borrowing to purchase a home you probably wouldn't need an appraisal. I think lenders just want objective evaluation of the collateral. Who can blame them?
Re: After a $1.8B verdict, the clock is ticking on the 6% realtor commission
#26I read the article, but I still don't understand how the National Association of Retailers enforce the 5-6% total commission. Does anyone know? The incidence question (is the fee "paid" by the buyer or seller) is a semantic one, but if the cartel is able to inflate the total fees, that's something else entirely.
It's mostly due to the fact that in order to list a house or find a house you need to use a system called MLS. In order to use the system you need to be a realtor. It's quite simple actually
Re: After a $1.8B verdict, the clock is ticking on the 6% realtor commission
#27A good realtor can guide you through the market, inspections, and negotiation - all of which hugely affect the largest investment most people make. But that's no reason for them to demand a PERCENTAGE off the sale of the home! Closing fees plus realtor fees are a big reason why it takes so long for a home to break even for most people - something like 7 years in NYC. And one reason why there's so much pressure for ho…
Sure they can, but the entire incentive structure creates a situation where it's in the agent's best interest to get the sale done regardless or the outcome to the buyer/seller.
Re: After a $1.8B verdict, the clock is ticking on the 6% realtor commission
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find that it's very similar to mob tactics. Prospective homeowners just get passed and funneled from person to person that they effectively have no choice but to interact with. And each of those people take a piece of the pie.
And there are a lot of fear tactics used as well. Or FUD, at least. "Don't skip the inspection, what if something is wrong" sounds sensible but pre-purchase home inspections are quite surface level, will only find visible, obvious problems, and in the fine print they disclaim responsibility if they miss anything.
It's definitely you get what you pay for. If you have a good home inspector they may be able to tell you something like "Yea, the roof is fucked", or "That crack you didn't notice in the foundation is really bad news".
I don't build homes nor do I troubleshoot them on a daily basis. Someone that does, and has a at least a modicum of experience will still notice more than I.
Re: After a $1.8B verdict, the clock is ticking on the 6% realtor commission
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's mostly due to the fact that in order to list a house or find a house you need to use a system called MLS. In order to use the system you need to be a realtor. It's quite simple actually
But what's preventing realtors from defecting and offering their services for a lower rate?
Re: After a $1.8B verdict, the clock is ticking on the 6% realtor commission
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find that it's very similar to mob tactics. Prospective homeowners just get passed and funneled from person to person that they effectively have no choice but to interact with. And each of those people take a piece of the pie.
And there are a lot of fear tactics used as well. Or FUD, at least. "Don't skip the inspection, what if something is wrong" sounds sensible but pre-purchase home inspections are quite surface level, will only find visible, obvious problems, and in the fine print they disclaim responsibility if they miss anything.