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Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by matheusmoreira »

tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

> message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later

I barely have words to describe how much I hate this.

> It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

At work I open the task manager and just start assassinating processes left and right. I wish they'd give me administrator access so I could fix this thing permanently.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by Zircom »

projektfu wrote: post #34
Zircom wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My integrity in regards to my job goes as far as not doing things that are illegal or straight up immoral, but other than that'll do pretty much whatever my boss wants me to. Something that's annoying but relatively harmless like this I wouldn't even bat an eye at. It's a pretty rough job market out there at the moment and I'm not looking to make any waves or get on anybody's radar by being difficult.

Fair enough, but this was going on during the good times, too.

Well to be fair the last sentence is also applicable to my philosophy regarding my job even during the good times :-^)

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by kyleee »

hypeatei wrote: post #76
Sharlin wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 7 (Pro/Ultimate) will probably remain the least bad Windows ever released. Shame.

I miss Windows 7 so much. Apart from the slightly dated, although not bad UI, it would hold up just fine today if they didn't abandon it. No junkware pre-installed, consistent settings interfaces (not three ways to configure a setting), and no telemetry or dark patterns.

I came to love aero as well

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by pests »

fidotron wrote: post #16

Disappointed it doesn't show you a photo of the Product Manager responsible for OneDrive and make you answer them personally, like Jira went through a phase of doing. A totally missed opportunity. It should be the law that PMs have their faces on such things to promote the same trust we feel towards real estate agents. Privacy policy when signing up? The PM should be there, being responsible.

There is this hilarious older guy on TikTok named OldCoderGuy who has a lot of on-brand humor. One of his gags is "Power Interrupt" which is software by Microsoft that allows your manager to forcefully put you into a video meeting at any time.

Your joke just reminded me of that.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by FireBeyond »

tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

Windows is a hot mess in this regard.

Apple still irks me, though. Boot Safari, go and download Chrome. Install it. Which isn't silent, and requires multiple manual steps. Boot Chrome.

"Do you really want to use Chrome? (paraphrasing) Keep using Safari (the default option) or Switch to Chrome"

You know the user didn't accidentally download and install and start Chrome. Don't fucking ask.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by stephenr »

FireBeyond wrote: post #135
tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

Windows is a hot mess in this regard. Apple still irks me, though. Boot Safari, go and download Chrome. Install it. Which isn't silent, and requires multiple manual steps. Boot Chrome. "Do you really want to use Chrome? (paraphrasing) Keep using Safari (the default option) or Switch to Chrome" You know the user didn't accidentally download and install and start Chrome. Don't fucking ask.

> Don't fucking ask.

(A) what is it actually asking though. Paraphrasing doesn't help here. Is it asking about changing the default? Is it asking if you want to run it?

(B) google has a notorious history of pushing people to install chrome from their other properties, and it seems plausible that chrome is in fact the latest iteration of user-installed malware that a reasonable number of people install without really knowing why.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by fuzzfactor »

JohnFen wrote: post #11

I've been trying to get rid of OneDrive for months now, but I haven't been successful. It's yet another thing that makes me really hate Microsoft products.

OneDrive has appeared in W10 under Settings > Apps & Features in the general list of installed programs for quite some time now.

For W11 the list is at Settings > Apps > Installed Apps.

Up until fairly recently in this list, OneDrive was one of the ones (like Edge) where the Uninstall button was greyed out even for administrative users.

To get rid of it required more extensive hacking than casual users would be expected to do.

In the latest Windows versions the Uninstall button for OneDrive is finally functional, but when you do uninstall it takes quite some time before there is any visible response to confirm your action. Unlike other items on the list which uninstall quite rapidly.

For W10 you click the entire banner of an App to get the Uninstall submenu, but for W11 the whole banner is no longer active and you click the 3-dot ellipsis "trail of poop" icon instead.

Regardless whether an app on the list is that directly uninstallable or not, you might still benefit from hitting the submenu on every single app to access its Advancd Options selection where you can then disable the app's ability to run in the background. Especially for apps which are absolutely no use to you at all, if you can't directly uninstall, at least inhibit the uselessness to the extent within reach.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by namlem »

projektfu wrote: post #43
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that supposed to be a positive mark? "Yeah, he ruined the product, let's promote him to Senior Product Manager" is not a thing that people say very often.

I get it, there's usually another metric that's at fault. Increasing Edge browser use by underhanded techniques on every install is easier than convincing users to install it. Boosting MSN hits by having a hundred million computers constantly downloading content is easier than making content people share. But the net result is going to be more of us opting out. It's a real Yahoo approach.

The sad thing is, aside from the feature bloat, Edge is actually very good in terms of performance. And it has genuinely useful features like vertical tabs, workspaces, etc.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by dralley »

kyleee wrote: post #133
hypeatei wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I miss Windows 7 so much. Apart from the slightly dated, although not bad UI, it would hold up just fine today if they didn't abandon it. No junkware pre-installed, consistent settings interfaces (not three ways to configure a setting), and no telemetry or dark patterns.

I came to love aero as well

Somehow it was snappier, on older hardware, then the flat monocolor designs that followed it.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by renonce »

bobmaxup wrote: post #20
tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

They are just forcing you to provide reasons for you not wanting to use their software, so they can change it in a way that makes you want to use it. If that doesn't work, maybe they will use more hostile methods of coercion. For example, they could make it a service that restarts every 5 minutes after you kill it. They could also prevent you from disabling the service.

* They are just forcing you to provide reasons for you not wanting to use their software, so they can change it in a way that makes you want to use it.*

The only way to make me want to use it is to change in a way that they do not force me to provide reasons for me not wanting to use their software.

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