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Omegle 2009-2023

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by peyton »

aaomidi wrote: post #90
marcus_holmes wrote: post #70

This is so sad. For all the conventional reasons: the victim of the abuse deserves sympathy, and that abuse shouldn't happen. But also because we seem to be placing the blame for the abuse on the service, not the abuser. And that's sad because instead of being able to just make interesting stuff and put them online, we are being forced to consider "what's the worst possible thing that some evil bastard could use this…

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Won’t these pedophiles just move to Roblox or start trading kids’ phone numbers or something? Cut off one head and three more emerge. Can’t the answer to people breaking the laws be law enforcement?

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by yawpitch »

silenced_trope wrote: post #11
veeti wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Omegle: Suing the website that matched me with my abuser" https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64618791

Let the legal process play out. I'm not a fan of this journalist "ambushing" the founder at his property and staying outside of it until he gets some answers. "He has all the blinds closed" - right. Let a judge determine whether the founder is in the wrong and needs to provide answers. Sorry maybe it's the aspergers in me but I'm generally not a fan of these self-anointed judge, jury, and executioners performing publ…

So you’re a fan of judges doing their jobs, but not a fan of journalists doing theirs?

Tracking down and trying to talk to those your sources have accused of wrongdoing to try and get their side of the story and to get them to speak on the record is kind of literally Investigative Reporting 101, and has been for actual centuries now.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by willsmith72 »

blairbeckwith wrote: post #100
aaomidi wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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how far do we take this? would we have motor vehicles if we knew how many people would be killed by/with them every year?

Motor vehicles are a great example. They are HEAVILY regulated and have a gigantic focus on safety.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by adamomada »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #70

This is so sad. For all the conventional reasons: the victim of the abuse deserves sympathy, and that abuse shouldn't happen. But also because we seem to be placing the blame for the abuse on the service, not the abuser. And that's sad because instead of being able to just make interesting stuff and put them online, we are being forced to consider "what's the worst possible thing that some evil bastard could use this…

The victim of this abuse had to log on to a computer each and every time they were “abused” which is lowering the bar further than I ever thought possible for there to be a victim

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by sdfhioandion »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #52
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #35

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Regardless of any arguments about legitimacy, the optics of the EFF and ACLU defending Omegle against a child sex abuse victim are horrible. They need to raise funds from donors and having to explain that they fought against an individual abuse victim seems like the kind of position they would want to avoid. What I imagine they would do is fight against any overzealous legislation some politician tries to throw toget…

> optics Didn’t they used to specifically and notably not care about this? See ACLU defense of neo nazi march.

They sure did, but they've changed. They helped obtain permits for the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, which devolved into a MAGA riot that ended with a white supremacist murdering one protestor and injuring 35 others. Since then the ACLU has become far more squeamish about their clients and has been willing to compromise on their historical principles.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/aclu-johnn...

I think the ACLU is still a good organization, but it's no longer the ACLU. It should be monomaniacal and universally despised.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by dragonwriter »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #70

This is so sad. For all the conventional reasons: the victim of the abuse deserves sympathy, and that abuse shouldn't happen. But also because we seem to be placing the blame for the abuse on the service, not the abuser. And that's sad because instead of being able to just make interesting stuff and put them online, we are being forced to consider "what's the worst possible thing that some evil bastard could use this…

> But also because we seem to be placing the blame for the abuse on the service, not the abuser.

Blame is not exclusive or zero-sum, and while there is obviously blame being placed on the service, I don't see any evidence that blame is not being placed on the abuser (or that less blame is placed on them than would have been if blame wasn't placed on the service as well.)

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by thaumasiotes »

willsmith72 wrote: post #86
JSavageOne wrote: post #56

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It's horrible that this happened and obviously I'm glad the pedophile is in jail, but how exactly was she "coerced"? And how is any of this Omegle's fault?

> how exactly was she "coerced"? Yeah no this is a terrible take. She was coerced by being an 11 year old talking to a grown adult. How do you think she was coerced?

Usually being coerced would involve some amount of coercion.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by Gabf74phcJ2bJpr »

uwagar wrote: post #75

its ironic the tool he created probably help organised and amplify the evil forces that harms other people including children? + the tool creator shouldnt be at the helm when it goes super viral. cos once everyone shows up, it will as the microbiologist and ecologist rene dubois observed, "[any successful social innovation can be] pushed to the point of absurdity". when a tool goes viral i suppose it should be "taken…

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by LarsAlereon »

I'm really sad about this. I know that a lot of really desperate people used the text chat feature when they needed someone to listen, and there's certainly a lot of people who are alive and happy today because they found someone to talk to there when they needed it. I can't deny that there have also been cases where people's lives have been made worse or ruined because of something that happened to them, but I think on the balance the site made the world a better place.
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