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Omegle 2009-2023

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by wolverine876 »

SamPatt wrote: post #62
wolverine876 wrote: post #32

Despair is trendy, which makes doing it easier; it makes it normalized. Perhaps previously a 'I'm not going to give up; I'm going to keep fighting for what I care about!' message would be normalized, and because of that the Omegle founder would feel strong and supported instead of alone. (I don't know the person or much about their situation; I'm just using what I read to make a general observation.)

Sounds like he's been fighting for a long time and eventually tired. It's a bit presumptuous to say that his actions / statement are due to despair being trendy. Everyone has their own "It's not worth it anymore" moment.

See my second paragraph; I'm not really talking about this person.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by mplewis »

wpasc wrote: post #83
rvcdbn wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How exactly do you imagine those laws would be structured?

Harassment law would probably suffice with case law and precedent starting to cover the specific type of harassment

How would you separate legitimate journalism from harassment?

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by reverse_no »

wow. i remember using omegle in 2010. the whole chat roulette craze. this guy dresses up the issue in some pretty overly dramatic and sentimental clothing… in reality this is the failure of yet another company that uses the old model. the model of the early internet where everything is free and everyone is anonymous. its just unviable and becomes less viable as the internet grows. captcha is broken… the old model is dead.

when you have a free service and broken captcha then you will be a magnet for crime, spam and you will hemorrhage money. maybe youll get advertisers if you sanitize the platform and now youve defeated the point anyway. or you can sell user data. at the end of the day people have to pay.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by allan_s »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #47
x0x0 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your own link talks about the many downsides, not least of which entrenching the idea that website owners regularly demand government id from their users. No possible downsides to that...

There are always tradeoffs. There is no law that says website owners cannot demand ID already. We might have different belief systems and perspectives on the topic of safety and privacy as it relates to non adults and Internet accessibility, in which case we won't find middle ground. It happens. Democracy is messy. I encourage engagement regardless of your position on the topic. That is how we find (or at least attem…

There is at least GDPR, if you have users of European citizenship, that requires a legal basis to do so if it is mandatory in your registration process

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by freddie_mercury »

poglet wrote: post #37
wolverine876 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you meet people randomly on any of those services? That would be an interesting feature.

WeChat has a shake feature, also a people near me feature. I think telegram also has a location based feature.

At least in the country where I live the "people near me" features have been removed/blocked from WeChat/Zalo/Telegram because they are overwhelmingly (like 99% of the time) used for prostitution.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by ethanbond »

shadowgovt wrote: post #67
pfannkuchen wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> optics Didn’t they used to specifically and notably not care about this? See ACLU defense of neo nazi march.

Sure, but then what happened. I suspect the ACLU has refined its opinion on the nature of freedoms. Or the public that funds it has and it realized that it can't do any good if donors pull support because it keeps supporting Nazis. Maybe distinction without a difference.

> I suspect the ACLU has refined its opinion on the nature of freedoms.

Of all the targets of ire for "woke culture" etc., I'm really surprised that ACLU, SPLC and similar aren't getting more heat. They're actually highly consequential in people's daily lives and can clearly be ideologically captured by a rather small group of people, given that the orgs themselves are so small.

Much better targets of critique than random Twitter mobs.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by willsmith72 »

uwagar wrote: post #75

its ironic the tool he created probably help organised and amplify the evil forces that harms other people including children? + the tool creator shouldnt be at the helm when it goes super viral. cos once everyone shows up, it will as the microbiologist and ecologist rene dubois observed, "[any successful social innovation can be] pushed to the point of absurdity". when a tool goes viral i suppose it should be "taken…

well yeah, that's why it's shut down

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by adamomada »

x0x0 wrote: post #48
rvcdbn wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basic age verification is pretty easy, no? I’m not sure about the details but this seems like a pretty low bar for a site like this. Not that I’m advocating it be required but just that if it were me I would not make something like this without at least making the best possible attempt at age verification.

How is age verification easy?

Why isn’t having an “over 18?” checkbox enough to have lawsuits brought by children (at the time or later) thrown out unceremoniously?

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by FullstakBlogger »

cortesoft wrote: post #61
SamPatt wrote: post #18

I don't know the whole story, but this seems very genuine. It echoes a sentiment I imagine many people my age feel, where the magic of the early internet we witnessed during our coming of age feels threatened. I feel for him, and hope he's able to move onto other projects which aren't as stressful.

I find it interesting that the "magical period" seems to be determined by your age. For me, the internet has already lost its magic by the time the mid 2000s came around, well before Omegle came out in 2009. For me, the magical period was the early 90s, when I was growing up. In 15 years, are people going to be talking about the current internet as the time when the magic was there? It seems more about the magic of c…

I think this is essentially a false dichotomy. It's possible to experience the loss of both of those eras, as well as the current one whenever it passes. There's no inherent conflict in wanting them all back.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by blairbeckwith »

aaomidi wrote: post #90
marcus_holmes wrote: post #70

This is so sad. For all the conventional reasons: the victim of the abuse deserves sympathy, and that abuse shouldn't happen. But also because we seem to be placing the blame for the abuse on the service, not the abuser. And that's sad because instead of being able to just make interesting stuff and put them online, we are being forced to consider "what's the worst possible thing that some evil bastard could use this…

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how far do we take this? would we have motor vehicles if we knew how many people would be killed by/with them every year?
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