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Omegle 2009-2023

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by krasin »

uwagar wrote: post #75

its ironic the tool he created probably help organised and amplify the evil forces that harms other people including children? + the tool creator shouldnt be at the helm when it goes super viral. cos once everyone shows up, it will as the microbiologist and ecologist rene dubois observed, "[any successful social innovation can be] pushed to the point of absurdity". when a tool goes viral i suppose it should be "taken…

> its ironic the tool he created probably help organised and amplify the evil forces that harms other people including children?

Care to elaborate on your accusation? In my world, Omegle was about things like these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOYM8HEae4Q

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

echelon wrote: post #10
veeti wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Omegle: Suing the website that matched me with my abuser" https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64618791

> As a young girl, Alice (not her real name) logged on to the popular live video chat website, Omegle, and was randomly paired with a paedophile, who coerced her into becoming a digital sex slave. Nearly 10 years later the young American is suing Omegle in a landmark case that could pave the way for a wave of lawsuits against other social platforms. This is fucked. We shouldn't have to put safety padding on everythin…

Yep.

If the pedo found her at a walmart, would she sue walmart too?

Weird people, pedos, criminals are everywhere.... parents somehow teach about "stranger-danger" offline but not online, and then blame platforms their kids use, even though they are too young to use them in the first place.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by wpasc »

rvcdbn wrote: post #24
echelon wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sorry maybe it's the aspergers in me but I'm generally not a fan of these self-anointed judge, jury, and executioners performing public shaming rituals. I'm starting to feel this is the thing we should have laws against.

How exactly do you imagine those laws would be structured?

Harassment law would probably suffice with case law and precedent starting to cover the specific type of harassment

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by ethanbond »

cortesoft wrote: post #61
SamPatt wrote: post #18

I don't know the whole story, but this seems very genuine. It echoes a sentiment I imagine many people my age feel, where the magic of the early internet we witnessed during our coming of age feels threatened. I feel for him, and hope he's able to move onto other projects which aren't as stressful.

I find it interesting that the "magical period" seems to be determined by your age. For me, the internet has already lost its magic by the time the mid 2000s came around, well before Omegle came out in 2009. For me, the magical period was the early 90s, when I was growing up. In 15 years, are people going to be talking about the current internet as the time when the magic was there? It seems more about the magic of c…

Also would comport with the explanation that the Internet just gets worse and worse.

Will be interesting to see if kids who grew up with TikTok et al. will, as adults, view it as affectionately as we view our childhood form of the Internet. I do think there's something to be said of an overall trend toward more consumption, less production.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by tyg13 »

Mechanical9 wrote: post #31
xwdv wrote: post #12

To the founder of Omegle, I would say: do not lose heart. The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice. In the end, we will prevail over those who destroy the good works of others under the guise of false victimhood and social justice, and build a very special place in hell for them, where we will condemn them for all eternity.

I don't really see what aspect of this situation involves a false sense of victimhood, unless you are referring to the multimillionaire founder who is unwilling to add age verification to their website.

How is age verification supposed to work? I don't suppose users of the site are going to provide legal documents just to use it. It's tantamount to shutting it down.

I ask because there was a similar moral outrage around age verification for access to porn sites that I recall being a big issue a while ago. I don't recall exactly how it played out in court, but it appeared to amount to nothing, which I can't help but to feel was due to the fact that mechanisms to verify someone's age online are either trivial to circumvent or present such a high barrier to entry that no reasonable user would surmount it.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by willsmith72 »

JSavageOne wrote: post #56
echelon wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As a young girl, Alice (not her real name) logged on to the popular live video chat website, Omegle, and was randomly paired with a paedophile, who coerced her into becoming a digital sex slave. Nearly 10 years later the young American is suing Omegle in a landmark case that could pave the way for a wave of lawsuits against other social platforms. This is fucked. We shouldn't have to put safety padding on everythin…

It's horrible that this happened and obviously I'm glad the pedophile is in jail, but how exactly was she "coerced"? And how is any of this Omegle's fault?

> how exactly was she "coerced"?

Yeah no this is a terrible take. She was coerced by being an 11 year old talking to a grown adult. How do you think she was coerced?

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by Obergruppen »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #52
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of any arguments about legitimacy, the optics of the EFF and ACLU defending Omegle against a child sex abuse victim are horrible. They need to raise funds from donors and having to explain that they fought against an individual abuse victim seems like the kind of position they would want to avoid. What I imagine they would do is fight against any overzealous legislation some politician tries to throw toget…

> optics Didn’t they used to specifically and notably not care about this? See ACLU defense of neo nazi march.

The ACLU is not the same organization that it used to be. That neo nazi march they defended was almost 50 years ago. It is doubtful they would take a similar stance today.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by userbinator »

This brings back some amazing memories. If I remember correctly, the original inspiration for Omegle came from 4chan; or more precisely, a user thought of stretching the limits of "anonymous free speech" to realtime communications, and came up with the idea in late 2007. The PoC server for it was nothing more than "telnet to this IP" and it was sporadically advertised on 4chan for a short while.

Astonishingly, Google still remembers after 16 years: "forced_anon chat" (with the quotes) finds the very origin, if you want to go down that dark and probably-too-offensive-to-the-current-generation rabbithole.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #59
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of any arguments about legitimacy, the optics of the EFF and ACLU defending Omegle against a child sex abuse victim are horrible. They need to raise funds from donors and having to explain that they fought against an individual abuse victim seems like the kind of position they would want to avoid. What I imagine they would do is fight against any overzealous legislation some politician tries to throw toget…

Didn't the ALCU defend Nazis in the past?

The nazis, or free speech and freedom of assmbly?

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by aaomidi »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #70

This is so sad. For all the conventional reasons: the victim of the abuse deserves sympathy, and that abuse shouldn't happen. But also because we seem to be placing the blame for the abuse on the service, not the abuser. And that's sad because instead of being able to just make interesting stuff and put them online, we are being forced to consider "what's the worst possible thing that some evil bastard could use this…

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