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Omegle 2009-2023

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by Mechanical9 »

xwdv wrote: post #12

To the founder of Omegle, I would say: do not lose heart. The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice. In the end, we will prevail over those who destroy the good works of others under the guise of false victimhood and social justice, and build a very special place in hell for them, where we will condemn them for all eternity.

I don't really see what aspect of this situation involves a false sense of victimhood, unless you are referring to the multimillionaire founder who is unwilling to add age verification to their website.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by wolverine876 »

Despair is trendy, which makes doing it easier; it makes it normalized. Perhaps previously a 'I'm not going to give up; I'm going to keep fighting for what I care about!' message would be normalized, and because of that the Omegle founder would feel strong and supported instead of alone.

(I don't know the person or much about their situation; I'm just using what I read to make a general observation.)

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by bogota »

wolverine876 wrote: post #21
echelon wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As a young girl, Alice (not her real name) logged on to the popular live video chat website, Omegle, and was randomly paired with a paedophile, who coerced her into becoming a digital sex slave. Nearly 10 years later the young American is suing Omegle in a landmark case that could pave the way for a wave of lawsuits against other social platforms. This is fucked. We shouldn't have to put safety padding on everythin…

We do implement many things that protect people, sometimes children in particular. They aren't perfect, but they can prevent a lot of damage. The question, as usual, isn't all or nothing. It's what can we do that will meet all the criteria as best possible: not infringe on freedoms, reduce harm, be affordable, etc.

100% agree i think the bigger issue is at least in the US and many other countries we have lost all faith that the people making those choices will do so in a responsible or ethical manner.

Essentially we lost faith in the system and I don’t think it will ever come back. So where do we go from here?

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

echelon wrote: post #20
PessimalDecimal wrote: post #16

It seems the real reason this lawsuit found traction while similar ones against much larger platforms is precisely because Omegle sounds like a fairly shoestring operation. Platforms with an army of lawyers can surely fend lawsuits like this off without batting an eye. Apparently Omegle doesn't have an army of lawyers.

This used to be exactly what the EFF and ACLU were for.

Regardless of any arguments about legitimacy, the optics of the EFF and ACLU defending Omegle against a child sex abuse victim are horrible. They need to raise funds from donors and having to explain that they fought against an individual abuse victim seems like the kind of position they would want to avoid. What I imagine they would do is fight against any overzealous legislation some politician tries to throw together in some ham-fisted response to this kind of situation.

EDIT: Admittedly I know little of the history of these groups. Comments suggest I may be in error on my inferences here.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by poglet »

wolverine876 wrote: post #23
sandworm101 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back to whatsapp and other encrypted services whereby the corporate overlord can plead ignorance of how thier systems are used. Omegle didnt evolve to meet the new standard: dont connect people. Let them do that themselves. Then you cannot be blamed when the wrong two people meet via your system.

Can you meet people randomly on any of those services? That would be an interesting feature.

WeChat has a shake feature, also a people near me feature. I think telegram also has a location based feature.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by stemlord »

kylebenzle wrote: post #22
silenced_trope wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let the legal process play out. I'm not a fan of this journalist "ambushing" the founder at his property and staying outside of it until he gets some answers. "He has all the blinds closed" - right. Let a judge determine whether the founder is in the wrong and needs to provide answers. Sorry maybe it's the aspergers in me but I'm generally not a fan of these self-anointed judge, jury, and executioners performing publ…

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What does this even mean? Aren't all "labels" in the DSM made up?

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#39

Post by wolverine876 »

bogota wrote: post #33
wolverine876 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We do implement many things that protect people, sometimes children in particular. They aren't perfect, but they can prevent a lot of damage. The question, as usual, isn't all or nothing. It's what can we do that will meet all the criteria as best possible: not infringe on freedoms, reduce harm, be affordable, etc.

100% agree i think the bigger issue is at least in the US and many other countries we have lost all faith that the people making those choices will do so in a responsible or ethical manner. Essentially we lost faith in the system and I don’t think it will ever come back. So where do we go from here?

> Essentially we lost faith in the system and I don’t think it will ever come back. So where do we go from here?

A bit extreme? It will come back if you choose it, if you do it. The despair, as I posted, is trendy but it's absurd - the most ridiculous, counterproductive philosophical trend I can imagine. Stop philosophizing and just start doing!

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by afavour »

echelon wrote: post #10
veeti wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Omegle: Suing the website that matched me with my abuser" https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64618791

> As a young girl, Alice (not her real name) logged on to the popular live video chat website, Omegle, and was randomly paired with a paedophile, who coerced her into becoming a digital sex slave. Nearly 10 years later the young American is suing Omegle in a landmark case that could pave the way for a wave of lawsuits against other social platforms. This is fucked. We shouldn't have to put safety padding on everythin…

> Should we put inflatable balloons around people because cars and high velocity objects exist that we can collide with?

You’re talking in hyperbole but… yeah, we do a ton of work to make roads safer than they might otherwise be. What purpose do you think pedestrian crossings serve?

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