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Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by Tommstein »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #72
Tommstein wrote: post #57

Microsoft has been a known quantity for a long time. At this point, anyone willingly subjecting themselves to their bullshit (as opposed to having it forced on them by work) has only themselves to blame.

> At this point, anyone willingly subjecting themselves to their bullcrap (as opposed to having it forced on them by work) has only themselves to blame. Yeah. That and their employers, customer base, relatives, biz associates....

> Yeah. That and their employers, customer base, relatives, biz associates....

You found a wealth of ways to repeat the word "work."

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by nerdjon »

daedalus_j wrote: post #70
nerdjon wrote: post #24

My decision to just stick with Windows 10 LTS version for gaming is reinforced as a good decision on a fairly regular basis at this point. My partner was on Windows 10 and was running into some issues with OneDrive. Apparently it just moved the entire user directory (or something like that) to OneDrive and most of his files were not local. We tried to disable OneDrive and his Desktop just disappeared. We finally just…

Just as a counterpoint, the same games run better for me on the Linux/proton side of the same hardware. Haven't had any real issues with non-steam games either on my Linux desktop or my steam deck. It's interesting to note how different the experience of different users is. Makes me curious what part of the stack is causing such massively divergent outcomes. Graphics driver? Window manager? Distro defaults? Tough iss…

So my only real experience with linux gaming is with SteamOS and Proton.

A big example of a game that I had to jump through hoops (and just gave up and switched to Windows) was Kingdom Hearts. FF14 (not through Steam) was another example of a game that I got to work fairly well, but the steps to get it working was weird and meant I lost the syncing the real launcher had.

However I do want to mention that I actually did some comparisons, and at least on my steam deck I got better battery life and performance on games running on Windows 10 LTS vs the same games running on SteamOS.

I didn't do extensive testing, but enough to make the choice fairly easy and remove any compatibility issues.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by uxp »

Justsignedup wrote: post #8
codeful wrote: post #3

I am speculating that only a fraction of users explicitly shut down a program that appears beasides the clock. Is it truly worth irritating that segment of users? I am one of those who occasionally turns off OneDrive. However, the idea of starting to look for alternatives has only just struck me. I'm really tired of waves of popups everywhere.

Every 3 months MS "updates" windows by prompting me to enable edge, buy/try office, enable one drive, etc. And every button for no is in a different location.

My mother in law works for a company that allows her to work from home from a personal device running Chrome.

Several times a year I get a phone call at 6:30AM from her asking to quickly drive to her house before her shift starts at 7 to fix her computer, because "something happened" or "I was hacked". Every time, it's been an update which has reset her default apps so email opens in the newish Mail app and not Outlook or Gmail-in-Chrome, or changes the browser to Edge from Chrome. I'm not a systems administrator, so I havent a clue on what the magical incantations of registry paths and values should be which prevent this despite trying.

Obviously if this was a domain managed asset at a company, someone would know how to prevent this. As a "home device", it feels like you're automatically enrolled in the "Global Microsoft domain", and subject to the whims of a product manager making IT decisions.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by RajT88 »

jm4 wrote: post #58
tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

The irony is that they do care about what the user prefers. All this telemetry and the surveys are to better understand user habits and preferences so they can make their software better. Unfortunately, they are so out of touch and ignorant that the methods they use are the exact bullshit users don't want.

You're being way more charitable than MSFT deserves here. And I'm usually one of those guys defending MSFT on HN.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by Nathanba »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #28
JohnFen wrote: post #11

I've been trying to get rid of OneDrive for months now, but I haven't been successful. It's yet another thing that makes me really hate Microsoft products.

What happens when you go thru the uninstall process? I've uninstalled OD on 100+ systems. It's always followed the pattern of other crapware; it goes away until the next major update.

I've uninstalled the xbox uwp apps and various built in apps many times and they keep coming back, it is very annoying. Especially the xbox one because one time their xbox game bar thing popped up during a meeting while I was remote desktop sharing and I never play any games on that machine but hey, it showed up randomly anyway.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by unaindz »

SoftTalker wrote: post #30
McAtNite wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This line of thinking only makes sense if you actively use OneDrive. If you don’t and have no interest in using it why leave it running? It’s bad enough that they automatically bundle it into Windows, but intrusively forcing a user to explain why they are using their own hardware in a certain way is silly. I’m going to guess that the intersection of people who actively close unneeded background programs, and the user…

Is it even possible to run Windows anymore without a Microsoft account? If you only have a local account, OneDrive has nothing to sync to, right?

Either install windows without being connected to the internet or log in using username: test pass: fuckmicrosoft It will fail to log in and offer to create a local account. PD: that password is optional, any password will do, but over time I noticed it is good for mental health.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by RajT88 »

Sharlin wrote: post #19
tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

Windows 7 (Pro/Ultimate) will probably remain the least bad Windows ever released. Shame.

With a bit of work to nerf some of the telemetry and dumb stuff, I liked 10 as much as 7. I won't say you're wrong.

Windows 10: From my Cold, Dead Hands.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by isk517 »

troad wrote: post #71
tux3 wrote: post #9

The newer versions of Windows seem to care less and less about what the user prefers. This is emblematic in the message boxes that offer a choice between Yes and Not Now/Maybe Later. It takes real effort to make Windows accept a No.

I'm no dogmatic, soapbox-spewin' free software acolyte, but at this point using Windows just feels somehow degrading. It's like a bad night in Vegas. Like being trapped inside the Daily Mail. Thank God for all of you free software types, or I'd have nothing to boot instead!

I built a new computer a few months back and made the mistake of buying Windows 11. The amount of effort it took to get to work the way I want made me really feel like I could have just spent the same energy on a Linux operating system. Thank God for Valve and all of the effort they are putting into making Linux gaming viable.

Re: Microsoft won't let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself

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Post by Someone1234 »

vel0city wrote: post #6

> Hopefully, Microsoft won’t start injecting a poll at shutdown demanding to know why I’m turning my PC off for the day. Clearly they've never used Windows Server.

That prompt has saved me from an accidental shutdown more times than I'd care to admit. In some cases we didn't have offline management/VM console to trivially turn it back on.
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