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Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by TylerE » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 9:56 PM UTC

bluGill wrote: post #284

tech_ken wrote: post #280

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So you're saying that retailers will pay Chamberlain to act as more or less a clearinghouse for package deliveries in my garage, and that in order to successfully operate this model Chamberlain needs to funnel all users through their proprietary channels in order to fully vet the delivery transaction? Or at least to prevent HA users from nibbling at Chamberlain's lunch with DIY equivalents? Do you think that they wil…

For retailers I want someone to verify that they are legitimate. I don't want random people in my garage. If someone enters my garage when I'm not home they better really be agents for WalMart/Amazon/target/UPS (as opposed to WolMort/Amozan/targit/USP...) , and whatever company does that does background checks on drivers. Probably they also need to have other cameras in their vehicles so that drivers trying to steal…

Not just agents for, they should be bonded agents. My garage has plenty of valuable items that would be easily fenced. (Power tools, etc).

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by koyote » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 9:59 PM UTC

404mm wrote: post #165

I don’t understand how the MyQ app has such a high rating in the App Store. 4.8, 1.5M reviews. It’s so bare bones, no shortcut support, (obviously) no HomeKit, no widget, literally nothing to make the use easier or more convenient. To make things even worse, first position above you devices is an ad (for their other devices) and it periodically suggests that I connect it to Amazon so some random people delivering pac…

It only has 3.9 on Google's store, but maybe that version is even worse?

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by hellotheretoday » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 10:00 PM UTC

SoftTalker wrote: post #459

Is there not an open-source alternative to this? A garage door opener can be activated from the inside with a momentary pushbutton switch. It should be trivially easy to have a Raspberry Pi or similar wired in parallel, and have that running some code to enable remote operation by an app or service.

https://paulwieland.github.io/ratgdo/

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by HunterWare » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 10:04 PM UTC

bonestamp2 wrote: post #269

HunterWare wrote: post #22

I use Home Assistant and have this openner. My installer recommeneded it because he’s had happy customers like me who use home automation. I can tell you that I a) will never recommend or buy the brand again, and b) have already complained to my installer about his recommendation of this line (and he is moving to another brand). I wish ratgdo a ton of success and have several on order.

I don't blame your installer for recommending it. I've had a myQ opener since 2015 and it's been rock solid... it has been the most reliable home automation product I have ever owned, until now.

I don’t, and would happily use that installer again. =) But unless you give feedback on how the choices are working out how can you expect them to know and have a better choice next time? (Genie, is what I heard for the future… I’ll have to check further when/if it becomes relevant)

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by saagarjha » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 10:05 PM UTC

EMIRELADERO wrote: post #390

chewmieser wrote: post #341

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MyQ app should work fine. Just not the API integration to MyQ.

Couldn't people do some reverse-engineering to figure out the first-party protocol and impersonate the official app in the API integration?

Yes, that's what they've done. The problem is that myQ keeps trying to fingerprint the device to check if the requests are coming from a real app before offering service.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by HunterWare » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 10:05 PM UTC

quadrifoliate wrote: post #134

HunterWare wrote: post #22

I use Home Assistant and have this openner. My installer recommeneded it because he’s had happy customers like me who use home automation. I can tell you that I a) will never recommend or buy the brand again, and b) have already complained to my installer about his recommendation of this line (and he is moving to another brand). I wish ratgdo a ton of success and have several on order.

> have already complained to my installer about his recommendation of this line (and he is moving to another brand). What brand is he moving to? Does it work with Home Assistant? I can't recall the last time I saw a garage door that wasn't Chamberlain or one of the brands they own. At least in my area they seem to have a near-monopoly.

Genie is what I heard. I haven’t deep dived, as I’m going to get along with Ratgdo. But if I needed new ones that’s where I’d start. =)

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by dfxm12 » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 10:18 PM UTC

spdustin wrote: post #452

dfxm12 wrote: post #436

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I gave amazon my code for a Christmas present that absolutely could not have been stolen from my porch (as many other recently had). As a working man, I couldn't sit at home to wait for it. I was a little nervous, but I have cameras at least. I then removed all reference to this code from my account. Then, one driver entered while I was going about my day in there and saw me waiting with a hockey stick, as I was wond…

If you've ever added "delivery notes" to an order, they're automatically shared with every subsequent order. Clear out the delivery notes on your next order.

I had done this. It didn't work as you are suggesting.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by fnordpiglet » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 10:20 PM UTC

quadrifoliate wrote: post #134

HunterWare wrote: post #22

I use Home Assistant and have this openner. My installer recommeneded it because he’s had happy customers like me who use home automation. I can tell you that I a) will never recommend or buy the brand again, and b) have already complained to my installer about his recommendation of this line (and he is moving to another brand). I wish ratgdo a ton of success and have several on order.

> have already complained to my installer about his recommendation of this line (and he is moving to another brand). What brand is he moving to? Does it work with Home Assistant? I can't recall the last time I saw a garage door that wasn't Chamberlain or one of the brands they own. At least in my area they seem to have a near-monopoly.

Genie Aladdin is supported by HA (don’t have one so don’t know how well it works)

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by fnordpiglet » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 10:21 PM UTC

toyg wrote: post #74

dspillett wrote: post #65

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> the MyQ app used to open garage doors is full of advertisements. This will most likely be a significant factor in though, though good luck getting them to admit it. HA users will mostly be bypassing the app and therefore not providing revenue via ad impressions.

The fact that a garage door accessory company relies on showing ads is a triumph for MBAs programs and a tragedy for the human race.

As far as I can tell, fwiw, the ads are all cross sells for chamberlain products so there isn’t an impression based revenue stream, just conversions.

Re: Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door opener API

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Post by PKop » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 10:21 PM UTC

zielmicha wrote: post #442

dfxm12 wrote: post #436

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I gave amazon my code for a Christmas present that absolutely could not have been stolen from my porch (as many other recently had). As a working man, I couldn't sit at home to wait for it. I was a little nervous, but I have cameras at least. I then removed all reference to this code from my account. Then, one driver entered while I was going about my day in there and saw me waiting with a hockey stick, as I was wond…

Could you have instead changed your code? It's generally best to assume that it's not possible to delete secrets once they are shared (after all, in worst case, the driver could have just remembered the code from the previous visit)

They did, which is why the drivers are mad it doesn't work.