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The problem isn't inflation. It's prices. What goes up may not come down

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Re: The problem isn't inflation. It's prices. What goes up may not come down

#71

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There is a reason corporate price gouging takes place when you see inflation narrative in the media. This is the only opportunity where people accept an increase in prices that sticks around. You raise the prices of eggs on a normal day, people will stop buying your eggs. You raise the prices of eggs when everyone is talking about inflation, people will accept it and focus on everything else.

Can you provide several strong examples of corporate price gouging showing up in public financial results (where we can see some evidence of it, instead of just empty claims)? I've yet to see any proof of it. Margins haven't skyrocketed on food products for example. Kroger still has horrible retailer margins. Prices at CVS and Walgreens have soared, their business margins are still horrible in retail. Kroger's gross…

>why didn’t their profitability soar

Because their stock buybacks and other executive compensation did.

This is public information.

It’s really weird how we also publicly acknowledge the ability of companies to hide profits, but when it comes to actually discussing corporate greed, in comes the bootlickers to drop their “wHY AReNT PrOFiTS SoArINg ThEN?!?”

We can see where as much as they want us to see is going: a couple people and a couple board members.

Re: The problem isn't inflation. It's prices. What goes up may not come down

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide several strong examples of corporate price gouging showing up in public financial results (where we can see some evidence of it, instead of just empty claims)? I've yet to see any proof of it. Margins haven't skyrocketed on food products for example. Kroger still has horrible retailer margins. Prices at CVS and Walgreens have soared, their business margins are still horrible in retail. Kroger's gross…

>why didn’t their profitability soar Because their stock buybacks and other executive compensation did. This is public information. It’s really weird how we also publicly acknowledge the ability of companies to hide profits, but when it comes to actually discussing corporate greed, in comes the bootlickers to drop their “wHY AReNT PrOFiTS SoArINg ThEN?!?” We can see where as much as they want us to see is going: a co…

Buybacks count as profit.

Re: The problem isn't inflation. It's prices. What goes up may not come down

#73
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>why didn’t their profitability soar Because their stock buybacks and other executive compensation did. This is public information. It’s really weird how we also publicly acknowledge the ability of companies to hide profits, but when it comes to actually discussing corporate greed, in comes the bootlickers to drop their “wHY AReNT PrOFiTS SoArINg ThEN?!?” We can see where as much as they want us to see is going: a co…

Buybacks count as profit.

Fine. Then Walmarts “consultant fees” for a one person company that happens to share an office space with 5000 other companies in a tax sheltering country most likely grew substantially.

All that really matters here is that we stop pretending that Walmart doesn’t have an army of lawyers and accountants making the public books appear however they want us to see them.

Re: The problem isn't inflation. It's prices. What goes up may not come down

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide several strong examples of corporate price gouging showing up in public financial results (where we can see some evidence of it, instead of just empty claims)? I've yet to see any proof of it. Margins haven't skyrocketed on food products for example. Kroger still has horrible retailer margins. Prices at CVS and Walgreens have soared, their business margins are still horrible in retail. Kroger's gross…

Easier to blame the big bad bankers/capitalists/CEOs than to look in the mirror and blame oneself for voting in unsustainable policies.

If you, personally, change your voting patterns, do you expect society to change?

Re: The problem isn't inflation. It's prices. What goes up may not come down

#75
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buybacks count as profit.

Fine. Then Walmarts “consultant fees” for a one person company that happens to share an office space with 5000 other companies in a tax sheltering country most likely grew substantially. All that really matters here is that we stop pretending that Walmart doesn’t have an army of lawyers and accountants making the public books appear however they want us to see them.

All the incentives are to goose profits, not hide them. Higher profits mean a higher stock price, which is how executives make the bulk of their pay.

Re: The problem isn't inflation. It's prices. What goes up may not come down

#76
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That people do not understand very basic concepts is scary. > The root of what’s going on here can feel obvious: blame inflation, which picked up in mid-2021 and throughout 2022. But that isn’t really the issue anymore, at least not at the current rate, because inflation is coming down. The actual problem here is prices. Inflation going from 10% to 5% is "inflation is coming down" - but it means that prices are risin…

Exactly. The argument comes down to "Yeah, but the exponential rise isn't quite as bad as before; therefore, the problem is going away!" No, it isn't. People are poorer, savings are being eroded, and basic life necessities are skyrocketing in price. Additionally, the government continues to deficit spend as if nothing is happening.

Re: The problem isn't inflation. It's prices. What goes up may not come down

#77
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide several strong examples of corporate price gouging showing up in public financial results (where we can see some evidence of it, instead of just empty claims)? I've yet to see any proof of it. Margins haven't skyrocketed on food products for example. Kroger still has horrible retailer margins. Prices at CVS and Walgreens have soared, their business margins are still horrible in retail. Kroger's gross…

>why didn’t their profitability soar Because their stock buybacks and other executive compensation did. This is public information. It’s really weird how we also publicly acknowledge the ability of companies to hide profits, but when it comes to actually discussing corporate greed, in comes the bootlickers to drop their “wHY AReNT PrOFiTS SoArINg ThEN?!?” We can see where as much as they want us to see is going: a co…

Isn’t there a way to flag posts like this which attack people and call them bootlickers?

Re: The problem isn't inflation. It's prices. What goes up may not come down

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easier to blame the big bad bankers/capitalists/CEOs than to look in the mirror and blame oneself for voting in unsustainable policies.

If you, personally, change your voting patterns, do you expect society to change?

People vote for:

- more spending

- lower taxes

- COVID bailouts

- social insurance

- constantly rising home prices

Many of these are very worthy things. But to not expect inflation and even to blame inflation on others is just nuts.

Re: The problem isn't inflation. It's prices. What goes up may not come down

#79
post #6

That people do not understand very basic concepts is scary. > The root of what’s going on here can feel obvious: blame inflation, which picked up in mid-2021 and throughout 2022. But that isn’t really the issue anymore, at least not at the current rate, because inflation is coming down. The actual problem here is prices. Inflation going from 10% to 5% is "inflation is coming down" - but it means that prices are risin…

Exactly. The argument comes down to "Yeah, but the exponential rise isn't quite as bad as before; therefore, the problem is going away!" No, it isn't. People are poorer, savings are being eroded, and basic life necessities are skyrocketing in price. Additionally, the government continues to deficit spend as if nothing is happening.

The government spending less money isn’t going to make your job pay more — if anything, it will cause your job to pay less.

Re: The problem isn't inflation. It's prices. What goes up may not come down

#80

Vox, whose bias and affiliation is with the team which caused inflation is attempting apologetics for inflation? Ok sure. The problem is inflation.

I cannot imagine how hard the media would have come down on Trump if prices had risen under his term.
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