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After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

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The trick is to never give your TV access to the internet and to pair it with an Apple TV. If you buy a TV and it won't even boot or work without an internet connection - return it and get a different one.

Yup. People always complain that the AppleTV is too expensive vs the competition, but stuff like this is exactly why.

lol... give it time. Apple does NOT miss a nickel.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

#122

What am I missing here? I mean, why not just not plug an ad box into the internet? Either use cable or a PC and voila, no ads. Or are they somehow tying basic functions like displaying images sent to the port with ads?

You can still do that. Many do. But the next generation of TVs probably won't even deign to turn on without you giving them Internet access.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

#123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of my favorite parts of AppleTV is that it has those beautiful screensavers.

When we switched to the 4 from the 3, the 3 used to have a "photos of the day" screensaver, filled with an ever changing, curated selection of photos. For whatever reason, they dropped that in the 4. All of the screensavers (as far as I can tell) are static now, which is kind of a shame.

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Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

#124
On my five year old TCL Roku TV the other day I decided to plug back in an over the air antenna. I clicked on the live tv shortcut and no channel scan or grid schedule showed up, just row after row of links to free streaming "broadcasters". I had to go to system settings and check a box not to show those and finally I could select an over the air channel. A dark pattern indeed.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. People always complain that the AppleTV is too expensive vs the competition, but stuff like this is exactly why.

lol... give it time. Apple does NOT miss a nickel.

What a low-effort comment. Can you answer the question of how long Apple has made the Apple TV? Based on that history, how much time should we "give" for your prediction to come true? Please be specific.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

#126

The trick is to never give your TV access to the internet and to pair it with an Apple TV. If you buy a TV and it won't even boot or work without an internet connection - return it and get a different one.

For cheapskates like me, Walmart sells an ONN Google TV box for like $20. Make sure to get the 2023 version, it's a much improved upgrade from one released a few years ago. I love that little thing, and if there are ads, I don't see or notice them. It's much nicer and more responsive than the actual Chromecast TV it replaced.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

#127

The Kindle Fire tablet is an upseller's paradise. The OS walls the user into an experience was built on constantly FOMOing the user over today's new Amazon content. Given that it was supposed to help my kids study for school during covid, that was a hard pass. I won't buy Amazon OS goods again, but if other people are lured by the low prices and then just accept what Amazon offers then I can only assume it's done won…

My brother was given one as a freebie and has another tablet, so I took it off his hands in the naive expectation I could root it and run lineage or such.

A humbling experience.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

#128

If you own a FireTV stick or display you'll notice that the FreeVee streaming app has started to become more and more prominent. It's deceptively simple - they are taking old shows like Murder She Wrote and streaming them non-stop on a "channel" much like the old terrestrial broadcast networks did. They're solving the streaming problem for older customers that don't grok Netflix or Hulu. These shows take pseudo-comme…

>These shows take pseudo-commercial breaks and send you 2-3 ads tailored to you specifically. My wife didn't believe it until I did a simple Amazon search on my phone for automotive batteries. Not more than 30 minutes later the ads switched to some random LiPo battery for RVs.

This is so depressing. We're living in the future and it's awful.

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

#129

If you own a FireTV stick or display you'll notice that the FreeVee streaming app has started to become more and more prominent. It's deceptively simple - they are taking old shows like Murder She Wrote and streaming them non-stop on a "channel" much like the old terrestrial broadcast networks did. They're solving the streaming problem for older customers that don't grok Netflix or Hulu. These shows take pseudo-comme…

PlutoTV is the same. I used to put on the Geek & Sundry channel and get ads from my employer.

I know what you mean but I can't help but imagine a 60 year old man pointing at the camera and saying, "Get back to work, Steve."

Re: After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fire TVs with ads

#130

The trick is to never give your TV access to the internet and to pair it with an Apple TV. If you buy a TV and it won't even boot or work without an internet connection - return it and get a different one.

For cheapskates like me, Walmart sells an ONN Google TV box for like $20. Make sure to get the 2023 version, it's a much improved upgrade from one released a few years ago. I love that little thing, and if there are ads, I don't see or notice them. It's much nicer and more responsive than the actual Chromecast TV it replaced.

Yet. You don't see ads, yet.

But, what you are doing, is selling your viewing history to marketers, albeit indirectly. For that $20 box, you are giving away everything you watch, when you watch, and very likely anything that goes through that box.

That said, you might be 100% ok w/that for the price and that's ok. But, you should go in eyes open about what these lower-cost pieces of hardware are doing to 'permit' you to pay less than they cost from competitors who may or may not be doing the same thing.

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