The main advertised feature of the iPhone 15 is titanium … not surprising that people feel like they can keep their current phone
US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade
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Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade
#72This is why I continue to be bullish on Apple. Apple is the only company that has been able to turn a smartphone into 'Nike Jordans'. They had people waiting outside at midnight, they have people buying the phone for the logo, they have people buying the phone for the location of the cameras. In the short term, I only see Apple as the company that does well during this next bumpy economy. Everyone else is selling pho…
How is anything a status symbol that is owned by 60% of the population in the US?
You can get an iPhone for $20 a month or less from either Apple or the carrier.
Heck even the low cost MVNOs are offering a “free iPhone”.
Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade
#73It's hard to feel positive about upgrading my phone when every new phone seems to remove things I want while adding stuff I don't care about.
My S10e is a reasonable size in my pocket. It has a headphone jack. It has an SD card slot. Any new Samsung phone I buy will be missing these things, and I'll be forced to pay hundreds of dollars extra to increase the on-board storage that will still be far less than the 512GB sd card I've currently got in there.
And I could try switching away from Samsung, but then I risk losing even more features I take to be standard, like wireless charging.
The phone still works just fine, it's fast enough for my needs (although the battery is certainly worse than when I got it). I would be more than happy to pay like $100/yr for "extended" support on it to still get repairs and security patches, rather than having to chuck it in the bin.
Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade
#74I'll upgrade if somebody ever makes a small phone again (small enough to use with one hand), that isn't underpowered/the budget model.
Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have it backwards IMO, the only reason Apple is able to achieve this effect is because their phones are heads and shoulders above the rest in hardware quality and integration. Build it (well) and they will come
> You have it backwards IMO, the only reason Apple is able to achieve this effect is because their phones are heads and shoulders above the rest in hardware quality and integration. Build it (well) and they will come Well this doesn't explain why a person is upgrading from last year's model, which effectively does every single thing just as well. The status symbol feature is what makes people upgrade _when they don't…
While I am simply astonishing that so many people are playing along with such an obvious bad-faith troll as the root of this thread...
The vast majority of Apple users don't upgrade year over year. Those that do generally take advantage of fantastic resale values to get the upgrade at little price.
And are you claiming that Samsung or Pixel owners aren't doing the same? I know a number of peers who buy whatever is the newest, and it certainly isn't limited to Apple users.
Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade
#76This is why I continue to be bullish on Apple. Apple is the only company that has been able to turn a smartphone into 'Nike Jordans'. They had people waiting outside at midnight, they have people buying the phone for the logo, they have people buying the phone for the location of the cameras. In the short term, I only see Apple as the company that does well during this next bumpy economy. Everyone else is selling pho…
That's a weird bubble people have put themselves in, but isn't a rough economy going to have the opposite effect, that people will take a harder look and realize it's all marketing BS and phones are all pretty much the same now? In other words, it's expensive to let yourself be taken in by the idea of a possession being a status symbol so it's one of the first thing to go when it stops making sense.
Over a two year contract, the difference between a low end iPhone and an Android is meaningless once people are making monthly payments on their phone
Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade
#77Not surprising. Phone upgrades in the last 5 years have been barely worth it. I'll be to first to criticize and mock The Google, but I've been plenty happy with my refurbished Pixel 5 that I not only plan on running it into the ground but getting another one if it finally croaks or loses too much battery capacity. Yes, I could just get the latest Pixel when that happens, but why switch from a phone that I know intima…
As the technology matures, you don't really need to upgrade it every year. You can already see that the updates in phone are incremental. For a person updating their phone every 3 years, it's a big update but that's not the case anymore for a person upgrading their phone every year.
Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade
#78They mean phablets? The shipments of smartphones likely plummeted above 90% because there is like 1 model available in total.
The term phablet has been pretty much obsolete since 2015 or so. Better accept that we're not going back.
Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade
#79I just "upgraded" my phone and for the first time my new phone is worse than my old one. I only upgraded because I noticed my old phone (Huawei P20 pro) was no longer getting android updates and I was concerned for the security of it. My new phone (pixel 8) feels worse in almost every regard. I can't even customise the home screen as much ( Literally cannot remove a link to Chrome and other google apps ). Given it's…
Long press the chrome icon, drag it off the screen, it's gone. Tested on pixel 8 just now.
Re: US Smartphone Shipments Decline 19% in Q3 2023 as More Americans Delay Upgrade
#80I upgraded from an iPhone 12 Pro to an iPhone 15 Pro for the camera. I've got some large upcoming trips and felt the improvement was worth it. I love that now I only need a USB-C cable—that simplifies things a lot.
Day-to-day it doesn't feel that different. Slightly faster and slightly longer battery life. If it wasn't for the camera improvements I probably would have stayed with the 12 Pro for another few years.
Apple really does make spectacular products. They easily last a decade—I've got an original iPad Mini (2014) and a Macbook Air (2012) that have had batteries replaced once or twice, but are still functional. The longevity is just another reason I'll keep buying Apple products.