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Stop making every conversation about yourself

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Re: Stop making every conversation about yourself

#91

There is a balance to this. If you always only listen to others and never speak about yourself, you fail to build connections with them (because they know nothing about you). I had the opposite problem, I made every conversation about them and had to learn to change that in order to be able to make friends.

There are different ways to talk about yourself; the one that attracts me when spoken to enough to seek friendships and relations is the one where the words 'I' and 'me' don't appear in very often. Like 'let's go to that AI meetup, gonna be great!' is an indicator that a) you like AI b) you want little ol' me (blush blush) involved. There is no boasting, no #iamthemaincharacter etc.

But you are right; there is a balance, people that only ask about me and don't tell anything about themselves won't work either. Personally, the preferred route is to just quickly find common ground and go do something. Can be anything.

Re: Stop making every conversation about yourself

#92
post #25

A dating advice, for a guy, is "70/30"; Let her speak 70%, you speak 30%. People really like to share their own knowledge because that is their comfort zone, especially about themself. When I throw a few cocktails back, I can get too comfortable with ranting, so I try to stfu every couple minutes to let others take the reins just in case I'm being overzealous (which is also embarrassing).

In that 30%, try to have maximum impact. That's the reason, clever, witty guys are admired.

Different women have different tastes.

Re: Stop making every conversation about yourself

#93

There is a balance to this. If you always only listen to others and never speak about yourself, you fail to build connections with them (because they know nothing about you). I had the opposite problem, I made every conversation about them and had to learn to change that in order to be able to make friends.

I think the balance is the conversation partner should be trying to ask more about you... it's a shared responsibility, and if they don't it equally means that they don't care about knowing more about you. If they're asking about you but you're giving minimal personal responses and redirecting the conversation back to them though, yeah.

And you can drop hooks for them to ask more about even while talking about them - like "Did you have any trouble getting through Y? I had trouble with X there a couple times before"

There are plenty of bad conversationalists out there though, and I sometimes wonder if it's worth the effort of forcing a totally one sided conversation the other way.

Re: Stop making every conversation about yourself

#94

There is a balance to this. If you always only listen to others and never speak about yourself, you fail to build connections with them (because they know nothing about you). I had the opposite problem, I made every conversation about them and had to learn to change that in order to be able to make friends.

A lot of people out there do not listen to learn or share viewpoints or out of genuine interest for the other being, but to get information that they can later use against you. People with real interests (nerds) should be particularly careful when talking to most people because nerds don’t understand such intent, which is why I try to not share my interests or similar personal information when I don’t sense certain personality traits. Being shut up about yourself makes most people out there mad because they view a conversation as a “trade” and can’t expect a later dopamin fix if you don’t give them your share, but who cares.

Re: Stop making every conversation about yourself

#95
This is basically an advice for extrovert people. Another advice for such people would be "stop repeating the same concept/anecdote every time we talk about that topic", but then they would probably stop being extrovert at all :)

At least in my experience these two are the most common traits of extroverts (and I do wonder if there is any real connection to how their memory works).

Re: Stop making every conversation about yourself

#96

Interesting. I had to make a conscious effort to go the other way around, i.e.: to talk more about me. I grew up reading too many books aimed at the extroverts among us ("There's a reason we have 1 mouth and 2 ears!"; "Silence is golden!"). It's hard to underestimate missed opportunities because a shy introvert (me back then) took and (mis)applied advice meant for extroverts who were already unable to stop talking ab…

I relate very much to this. I have autism and in-person social interactions have been challenging at times to understand. So, I became a student of the human social experience and read a bunch of books about how to speak human, which I think indeed sometimes were more for extroverts. I have been learning how to gracefully interrupt, how to start conversations, how to have an opinion that is different from the others…

Do you have some sources to recommend or have you learned it all from your own experience?

Re: Stop making every conversation about yourself

#97
post #76

> Be more private. Think more speak less. Something to think about: ADHD prevalence is between 5-15%, depending on region/study. Excessive speech is an ADHD symptom. It's part of physiology and not curable.

Pretty sure it’s curable in the sense that someone can make a decision to talk less.

Re: Stop making every conversation about yourself

#98
post #76

> Be more private. Think more speak less. Something to think about: ADHD prevalence is between 5-15%, depending on region/study. Excessive speech is an ADHD symptom. It's part of physiology and not curable.

This is something that probably makes some very isolated?

Not many people want to hear someone talk forever about nothing, which would lead to reprimanding and fear of reoccurance, avoidance, etc.

Re: Stop making every conversation about yourself

#99
I wonder how many HN readers need to read this - reluctant as I am to overgeneralise, my instinct would be: not many. And the comments seem to reflect that.

I'm certainly someone for whom the opposite advice would be more in need - I think listening to people talk about themselves is something of a defence mechanism; avoiding letting people in.

Re: Stop making every conversation about yourself

#100
post #52

Everything is a frontpage post nowadays. How about: just talk to people and don't be a twat? Enlightening.

Posts like this highlight that some people don’t know what is being a twat and what isn’t.

Likely because there is no absolute way people percieve eachother?
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