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Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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To be fair, the name "ChatGPT" has quite a bit of mindshare and I've found many non-technical folks referring to any generative AI product as "ChatGPT" or "GPT". Yet, if you asked any single one of them what "GPT" stood for, they'd have no clue.

I've heard all permutations of "GPT" "GPP" "GTP" etc.

GPT/IP

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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I would pay money for a GPT that was incredible at naming types in Swift I’d pay for one that was good at programming rubber ducking There are specific sub-tasks that everyone would pay for to make their lives easier. This marketplace is trying to make that efficient

I find NORMAL ChatGPT a good programming Rubber Duck and use it often.

How much would you pay for an actual Programming Rubber Duck ChatGPT terminal that you can talk to like Amazon Echo? With a bluetooth screencast input and keyboard and mouse output so it could see your screen and pair program with you, of course.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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post #296

> We’ve made ChatGPT Plus fresher and simpler to use > Finally, ChatGPT Plus now includes fresh information up to April 2023. We’ve also heard your feedback about how the model picker is a pain. Starting today, no more hopping between models; everything you need is in one place. You can access DALL·E, browsing, and data analysis all without switching. You can also attach files to let ChatGPT search PDFs and other doc…

What is even more annoying is every plus subscriber whining that they didn't get the feature yet. We know, you paid and you want to play now, but it's a rollout and it's progressively coming towards you. Just have a little bit of patience.

You’re completely missing the point. If they said “rolling out over the next week” it’d be one thing but they almost always say “available now” and it’s not. That’s not ok, that’s what we call a lie.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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So basically selling prompts but openai keeps the prompt a secret. Is that it?

They also run an RAG implementation for you, and there's probably some value in the store if it can surface high quality apps and have a good rating system. But basically, yeah. This is a complete replacement for every startup that was just a thin wrapper around the API - instead of being real startups those concepts will just be "GPTs" on the "GPT Store". I don't know how realistic or viable their solution is, but t…

That’s a RAG implementation?

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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post #304

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They also run an RAG implementation for you, and there's probably some value in the store if it can surface high quality apps and have a good rating system. But basically, yeah. This is a complete replacement for every startup that was just a thin wrapper around the API - instead of being real startups those concepts will just be "GPTs" on the "GPT Store". I don't know how realistic or viable their solution is, but t…

That’s a RAG implementation?

Yes, it offers a lot more than I initially thought. I think for the presentation they wanted to emphasize how simple it was to build and use, so I missed the implications of what they were showing. But the ability to upload a document base to one of these "GPTs" that it can then rely on for its responses means they must have some RAG system implemented on the backend, probably a pretty good one as I expect them to be very good at embeddings and search (they have a huge number of Google alums). It can also have integrated Code Interpreter, Data Analysis, and Image handling/generation if you tick the boxes, plus what looks like a very significant list of functions it can call in order to act as an agent (e.g. changing your calender entries or sending messages at your request after double checking, something that's probably going to give simonw a heart attack).

It looks like at base, with a short text description of what you want it to do and uploading of relevant documents, it may be able to replace like 95% of the GPT wrappers that have sprung up in the last 7-10 months. That's pretty impressive, because while all of those were doomed because they had no ability to defend themselves from competition, some of them were pretty useful.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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post #265

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None of them, but here's the thing: they never made any sense.

Conversion.ai / Jarvis.ai / Jasper.ai / whatever they’re called today raised $125M at a $1.5b valuation, so it made sense at some point to some people.

1) Jasper isn’t exactly what I’d call “thin.” It has e.g. an entire project management suite inside it now. They moved very fast into a vertical SaaS platform, probably because they knew that a thin wrapper was neither a particularly good product nor a defensible one.

2) There are tons of actually thin wrappers that raised a ton of money — contrary to popular belief this does not mean they are good businesses (Jasper, AFAICT, doesn’t seem to fall into the categories of either “thin wrapper” or bad business)

3) Obviously anything being called out as not making any sense allegedly “made sense” to some people at some point otherwise it wouldn’t be worth talking about.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Custom GPTs are fine but they’re sort of useless. Since anyone wanting to use a custom GPT has to have a ChatGPT Plus account, they themselves can spin up an even more targeted, even better prompt than anything you could come up with and use that instead.

Unless your custom gpt provides some special bells and whistles through functions or APIs, your custom gpt ideas are going to r copied by someone who can spin up those special bells and whistles and API calls and cut you out from the middle.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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And seeing how OpenAI is moving up the value chain, what's the guarantee they won't come up with an in-house competitor to the bot that was built on their platform?

Guarantee? That's one of the most important aspects of bothering to build out a platform: eat the ecosystem to add incremental value to the platform, bolster the moat. The guarantee is that they will clone and extinguish most of the best bots/tools/services riding on top of GPT. It's what platforms overwhelmingly tend to do. If your thing is a near-touch to GPT, depends on it, is of medium complexity or lower, and is…

There’s a great new book on how a lot of market leaders did exactly this; it’s called “Chokepoint Capitalism”. It’s from the guy who coined the term “enshittification”

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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post #33

I wonder how much money I could make making "GPTs" full time. Barrier to entry is nonexistent so I imagine highest revenue ones if this becomes a serious thing people use will be advertised externally or have some proprietary info/access.

> I wonder how much money ... I saw that announcement and my immediate thought was "God yet another thing passive income youtubers will be shilling soon" In general, I was a little confused by this. Sam's demo of creating a GPT didn't seem particularly exciting as well.

> shilling soon

Study the Poe ecosystem, and look at YouTube or Reddit.

. . .

EDIT: adding the detail from my comment 2 below, I'm referring to...

Bot creator monetization:

https://developer.poe.com/resources/creator-monetization

Earn money when:

- your bot brings a user to Poe for the first time and they eventually subscribe

- your bot brings a user back to Poe and they eventually subscribe

- your bot’s paywall is seen just before a user subscribes users send messages to your bot (starting soon)

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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No, they just lie in their marketing > Example GPTs are available today for ChatGPT Plus or > Starting today, no more hopping between models; everything you need is in one place. Neither of which are true. I'm a paying user and I have access to neither. They do this _all the time_. They announce something "available immediately" and it trickles out a week or more later. If they want to do gradual rollouts (which is s…

Are you sure? Both of those went live at 1 PM PST.

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