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Re: New models and developer products

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And just like amazon they will compete with their own customers. They are miles ahead in this regard as well since they basically take everyone’s digital property and resell it.

don't hate the player hate the game.

Why not both?

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Sorry to be blunt but they can be totally right, if you do not succeed and have to shut down your startup.

It certainly will be a fun experience. But our current belief is that LLMs are a commodity and the real value is in (application-specific) products built on top of them.

Exactly, everyone is so pessimistic but for every AWS sku there is a billion dollar startup that leads that market.

Re: New models and developer products

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You can now [1] pay from $2 to $3 million to pretrain custom gpt-n model. This has gone unnoticed but seems really neat. Provided that a start-up has enough money spend on that, it would certainly give competitive advantage. [1] https://openai.com/form/custom-models Edit: forgot to put the link

Well it won’t because they’ll use the model you paid for and take your customers.

No. The downside is you spent a lot of money on a model and don’t own it.

Re: New models and developer products

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For GPT-4 Turbo, not GPT-4.

Yes, nowhere in the text today was there any assertion that Turbo produces (eg) source code at the same level of coherence and consistently high quality as GPT4.

They specifically said it's a better model

Re: New models and developer products

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Is langchain still relevant with the release of AssistantAI? It seems managing the context window, state, etc is now all taken care of by Assistant AI. I guess langchain is still relevant for non-OpenAI options?

The average langchain dev will struggle to even call the API without langchain so I think it's safe

Re: New models and developer products

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Having ever increasing context is not the silver bullet. For those who believe that the larger the context, the smarter the model, you will find the model still talking nonsense even if it were fed with much larger context.

Even if it were equipped with infinite context, a user cannot dump everything into the conext. For enterprise users, their data volumn can be up to trillion Bytes, and cannot be measured by the number of tokens.

Re: New models and developer products

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For all the naysayers in the comments, the elephant in the room that no one quite wants to admit, is that GPT4 is still far better than everything else out there

Phind is the only thing that I've supplemented GPT-4 with, which is still pretty impressive.

Re: New models and developer products

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In people's experience with these sorts of tools, have they assisted with maintainance of codebases? This might be directly, or indirectly via more readable, bette organized code. The reason I ask is that these tools seem to excel in helping to write new code. In my experience I think there is an upper limit to the amount of code a single developer can maintain. Eventually you can't keep everything in your head, so m…

My open source ai coding tool aider is unique in that it is designed to work with existing code bases. You can jump into an existing git repo and start aaking for changes, new features, etc. https://github.com/paul-gauthier/aider It helps gpt understand larger code bases by building a "repository map" based on analyzing the abstract syntax tree of all the code in the repo. This is all built using tree-sitter, the sam…

Related to the OpenAI announcement, I've been able to generate some preliminary code editing evaluations of the new GPT models. OpenAI is enforcing very low rate limits on the new GPT-4 model. I will update the results as quickly my rate limit allows.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38172621

Also, aider now supports these new models, including `gpt-4-1106-preview` with the massive 128k context window.

https://github.com/paul-gauthier/aider/releases/tag/v0.17.0

Re: New models and developer products

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If I had no contact with society from the 29th of November 2022 (the day before ChatGPT was released according to Wikipedia) and came back today to see the OpenAI keynote I would have lost my mind. The progress and usefulness of these products is absolutely incredible.

I've been in contact with society and I'm still losing my mind.
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