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Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by burningion »

burningion wrote: post #97
mg wrote: post #81

So these "GPTs" are the combination of predefined prompts and custom API access? Not customly trained LLMs? If so, I guess you can make such a "GPT" on your own server and independent from a specific LLM service by using a prompt like ...you have available an API "WEATHER_API". If you need the weather for a given city for a given day, please say WEATHER_API('berlin', '2022-11-24') and I will give you a new prompt inc…

That's the thing, we don't know. The lack of transparency for how the product works behind the scenes will most likely make it difficult to build something effectively.

Actually, the documentation here is pretty great. Too late to edit my comment, but the transparency level here isn't too bad: https://platform.openai.com/docs/assistants/tools

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by arcanemachiner »

jondwillis wrote: post #214
mg wrote: post #81

So these "GPTs" are the combination of predefined prompts and custom API access? Not customly trained LLMs? If so, I guess you can make such a "GPT" on your own server and independent from a specific LLM service by using a prompt like ...you have available an API "WEATHER_API". If you need the weather for a given city for a given day, please say WEATHER_API('berlin', '2022-11-24') and I will give you a new prompt inc…

“GPTs” (terrible name) === Agents

Agreed, but one is a recognizable trademark (I assume) and one is a generic catch-all term that means a lot of things and would probably be worse from a branding/marketing perspective.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by alvah »

imdsm wrote: post #70
bilsbie wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not clear who the market is? Why someone buy one?

Imagine a "GPT" that could generate websites and provide you with a live deployment as you change it using natural language. A website builder GPT that is primed to output and design in a decent way, that has all the prep beforehand to use particular libraries, and integrations with something like Render. People would pay for that. Sh--... I better build it!

ZipWP already does something close to this for WordPress sites.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by alvah »

ethanbond wrote: post #26
siva7 wrote: post #16

So i guess the next wave of startups has been killed. I'm not even sure what kind of startup still makes sense as a gpt thin wrapper?

None of them, but here's the thing: they never made any sense.

Conversion.ai / Jarvis.ai / Jasper.ai / whatever they’re called today raised $125M at a $1.5b valuation, so it made sense at some point to some people.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by ukuina »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #69
jimmyl02 wrote: post #53

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I feel like history has shown that those who own the platform end up winning and in this case OpenAI's platform of models seems much harder to recreate. My guess is this would lead to Zapier using OpenAI as a platform and eventually OpenAI would re-create Zapier's integrations before the other way around.

I think this perspective is fair and historically accurate wrt platform risk, but I also strongly believe Zapier has substantial value beyond what historically has been acting as a conduit between APIs. Customers don't want a pipe between their services, they want to automate their mundane work with a robot.

What is Zapier's value-add when GPT can chain an arbitrary number of flexible API calls? Imagine if the GPT plug-ins directory is fed as input to GPT...

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by ukuina »

danenania wrote: post #241
levmiseri wrote: post #216

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The quality of the GPT4 content for travel is surprisingly good, although there are of course plenty of hallucinations and I've a new pass for the content set up that gets rid of the worst offenders. This is really just a learning experiment, but building something of this content scale by 1 person was absolutely impossible a year ago. The point was that content generation use cases might be a viable path give OpenAI…

Hmm but why click around on an AI-generated content farm to get information when I can just ask ChatGPT directly?

The site layout and images look pretty.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by x0x0 »

trash_cat wrote: post #224

Their zappier demo was uninspiring. They are trying to appeal to the mainstream (non devs) users when their actual value is the API. Everyday users don´t have access to propriatery data that makes the LLM Bots valuable. This makes me think that open source models are the future, for other reasons as well. No company is going to give them OpenAI their data to make bots, regardless if they won't train on the data. So w…

I disagree. There's a lot of folks using zapier that would like some light automation -- I have fielded requests from several -- who are not engineers and cannot build anything with an api. The bit where they built out the functionality with zapier and human instructions was aimed squarely at folks like this.

Re: GPTs: Custom versions of ChatGPT

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Post by ed_mercer »

cubefox wrote: post #135
MeImCounting wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the catastrophe is mega-corps getting to monopolize a valuable technology because people saw The Terminator and thought it was a documentary then any announcement from OpenAI is bad news.

The catastrophe is humanity going extinct from superintelligent AI. Like a native species going extinct after an invasive species arrives. Mentioning Terminator is like saying the Earth is flat because Hitler said it is round.

Looks like we’re gonna go extinct anyway, so might as well have a shot at AGI.
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