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Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

bragr wrote: post #144
pavlov wrote: post #13

The Financial Times [1] has attendee numbers: “About 2,250 people attended the Saturday evening party at a cruise terminal, said organiser Yuga Labs, one of the pioneers in this market. Since then, more than a dozen have posted on social media complaining of a burning sensation in the eyes and sometimes also impaired vision.” Honestly that’s a lot more proud Bored Ape bagholders than I would have guessed. But what do…

>Honestly that’s a lot more proud Bored Ape bagholders than I would have guessed The breakdown of locals vs people that flew in would be revealing. e.g. passionate owners vs cryto-casual hongkongers looking for a party.

According to the Zeke Faux book "Number Go Up", one needs to "own" a Bored Ape YC NFT to be admitted. The author had to pay $20,000 for one of these in order to gain admission to this event.

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Post by quickthrower2 »

LelouBil wrote: post #199
astrange wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A signed git commit is actually immutable. An NFT is generally the signed text of a URL, which kind of isn't.

Wait what, I thought it was at least the hash of the image or something.

It could be. I don't know about the ERC for NFTs and I can't be bothered to read it, but in theory just store the IPFS address for the image.

In reality though it is an implementation detail. An NFT is just a coloured coin, and derives it's value from someone else thinking they can buy it and sell it on to someone else / OR some kind of bragging rights value, i.e. I can afford $100k on X useless thing (e.g. watch, gold plated iPhone etc.) so therefore I am rich.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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sandworm101 wrote: post #215

Green lasers. Not the first time ive seen this sort of thing. Green lasers are made by running an IR laser through a crystal that doubles thier frequency, shifting IR into what we see as green light. But go cheap on the crystal and a green laser pumps out invisible IR possibly in a slightly different direction than the visible beam. Your eyes dont even blink because they dont see the IR. You dont notice the damage an…

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Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by alephxyz »

endgame wrote: post #230

There's no reason the party with unsafe UV lights had to be a crypto-party. While I'm no NFT bagholder, it bothers me that the article is mostly about dunking on cryptobros than talking about the dangers of hazardous lighting rigs at a show. At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR.

Bring sunglasses (and ear protection while you're at it) when going to a concert.

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by rainsford »

endgame wrote: post #230

There's no reason the party with unsafe UV lights had to be a crypto-party. While I'm no NFT bagholder, it bothers me that the article is mostly about dunking on cryptobros than talking about the dangers of hazardous lighting rigs at a show. At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR.

> At any event, how is an attendee supposed to assess such a thing? It's not like you can DYOR.

That's why I think the cryptobro angle is relevant to the story, because assessing trust in the folks putting on a conference is the way for attendees to figure out if they're likely to be blinded by the lighting or face other issues. And the type of people the whole cryptocurrency and especially NFT scene attract seem at least in my opinion to be way more likely to put on a conference with hazardous lighting than more reputable organizers. Everything about that whole space gives off a Fyre Festival vibe, which seems like pretty fair warning about going to an actual event organized by cryptobros.

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Post by seanp2k2 »

RenThraysk wrote: post #61
bertil wrote: post #17

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Yes, and it’s apparently not the first time it happens in Hong-Kong. Easy access to electronics, no real control.

Yep https://wwd.com/eye/parties/hypebeast-party-uv-lights-injuri...

oof, yeah those were powerful UV-C disinfecting bulbs. I've got half a dozen Elektralite eyeBall UV fixtures that I use for parties in conjunction with other lights, which are 18x3w 385nm UV LEDs per fixture. I don't stare directly into them as they're pretty intense, but they're still firmly in UV-A territory and don't hurt your eyes. They do light up anything fluorescent super bright though!

    - UVA (315-400 nanometers)
    - UVB (280-315 nanometers)
    - UVC (180-280 nanometers)

Re: Bored Ape conference attendees wake up with eye pain, vision loss

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Post by sandworm101 »

rideontime wrote: post #233
sandworm101 wrote: post #215

Green lasers. Not the first time ive seen this sort of thing. Green lasers are made by running an IR laser through a crystal that doubles thier frequency, shifting IR into what we see as green light. But go cheap on the crystal and a green laser pumps out invisible IR possibly in a slightly different direction than the visible beam. Your eyes dont even blink because they dont see the IR. You dont notice the damage an…

Source for "green lasers"? All the reporting I've seen says that they used disinfectant-grade UV lamps as blacklights. https://twitter.com/atomicthumbs/status/1721602536225091716

The footage ive seen had a few green lasers scanning. UV causes cornia damage, but not the headaches. IR lasers cause headaches, strange pains that the body doesnt understand and get interpreted as headaches.

If this was only UV, most anyone wearing glasses should have been protected as most modern glasses have substantial UV protection. IR protection is more rare in eyewear, although rather common in automotive glass.

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Post by quesera »

reactordev wrote: post #242
silisili wrote: post #227

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> two guys from Florida And that's all I need to know. I avoid buying from, selling to, or doing business with anyone from FL if I can, I've been burnt too many times. I'm not sure if the state attracts shady characters, or produces them, or both.

That's a pretty broad generalization. I could say the same for the Bahamas. Or Nigeria. Or New Jersey. Definitely Russia. So let's just address that there are bad actors everywhere, no matter from where, and that you must do you due diligence when dealing with people for business. What you probably meant to say is "There seems to be more lawlessness in FL than usual" which I would definitely agree with you. There's g…

> What you probably meant to say is "There seems to be more lawlessness in FL than usual" which I would definitely agree with you.

This itself is interesting enough.

I've been on the inside of a few risk management systems, with hundreds of signals feeding into a scoring product.

Invariably, and justifiably from the data, there is a "Florida rule", which affects the user's final risk score by a few percent.

This is mostly old-school deterministic stuff with manual weighting, tweaked over years of time by people far away from (and with no particular opinions about) Florida. The newer mystery box AI stuff, trained on many years of data, also shows the same bias!

I'm sure there's a story in this data.

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Post by sheepscreek »

mandmandam wrote: post #124
pavlov wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crypto on the whole is a scene where Sam Bankman-Fried was considered very smart while he was busy conducting the most inept financial crimes in modern history. The bar is low indeed.

We - humans - could have had digital money - fast and fee-less, micro-transactions, decentralization, secure, anti-spam. Everything Bitcoin claimed to want to be. Instead we - the tech community - got smug about scams. People here get smug even toward the victims of scams. The attitude has been 'Who gives a flying fuck about the details of any crypto tech, or the potential of digital money'. 'It's all a scam, so I do…

I see your point, and you honestly have one. However, nothing in this world works solely based on logic.

How many times have we heard xyz was the more optimal choice but abc won out. It’s because trust and perception are the other equally important dimensions.

That said, North America isn’t the only market for crypto. There are many thriving economies in the world with a broken currency. Argentina, to name one, is constantly weighing down by hyperinflation but the sheer grit and talent of locals is keeping the country relevant. Argentinians are always looking for ways to save their earnings without losing to inflation.

All that to say, there are still “real” problems waiting to be solved for which crypto can be a solution. In the west though, if it ain’t broke - you know the rest.

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