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What is this person actually proposing? In concrete terms? This reads like a lot of hand waving and talking in circles from someone who drank an extra pot of coffee. People have been trying to suck functionality from the web into the browser since Netscape 4.5 at least. The devil is in the details.
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I'll try to articulate this as someone who usually has 500-1000 open tabs. Bookmarks are things that meet or surpass a certain threshold of usefulness. My open tabs probably include things that should be bookmarked, but all of that information needs to be screened for what's really worth saving. Clusters of tabs for various trains of thought take time to condense into purified bookmarks. In order for me to have less…
Doesn’t that waste a lot of electricity though given all those tabs are loaded? Do you have to buy higher end laptops to accommodate that workflow?
Firefox doesn't load tabs after a restart until you click on them, and I use a tab unloader so tabs also get unloaded after a few hours (mentioned in my original comment that started this chain).
It's currently only using about 3% CPU.
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So you don’t use bookmarks because bookmarks seem like they have to be perfectly named/organized? Why not just… not? I.e. a bookmark folder called “chaos”. Seems like it would instantly unlock a more natural UI for the same data, but maybe I’m missing something. Thanks for explaining what you already have, I’ve always been SO confused by people with hundreds of tabs. I hope I wasn’t the only one who read “people eith…
> Why not just… not? I.e. a bookmark folder called “chaos”. Seems like it would instantly unlock a more natural UI for the same data, but maybe I’m missing something. Back to my comment that started this: That would be a flat list with no grouping and little to no context. Tree Style Tabs automatically organizes them by context. For example, one of my root tabs is Youtube. Immediate children include a few channels th…
However, this makes me think: what if there was a tree-style-tab extension that let you convert a tree into a bookmark folder? Then I wouldn't feel bad at all about closing half or more of my tabs.
This could be optionally combined with some sort of bookmark/page archiving service so you can be extra-sure that content will be waiting for you if you ever decide to look at it later.
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I'll try to articulate this as someone who usually has 500-1000 open tabs. Bookmarks are things that meet or surpass a certain threshold of usefulness. My open tabs probably include things that should be bookmarked, but all of that information needs to be screened for what's really worth saving. Clusters of tabs for various trains of thought take time to condense into purified bookmarks. In order for me to have less…
Doesn’t that waste a lot of electricity though given all those tabs are loaded? Do you have to buy higher end laptops to accommodate that workflow?
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> Why not just… not? I.e. a bookmark folder called “chaos”. Seems like it would instantly unlock a more natural UI for the same data, but maybe I’m missing something. Back to my comment that started this: That would be a flat list with no grouping and little to no context. Tree Style Tabs automatically organizes them by context. For example, one of my root tabs is Youtube. Immediate children include a few channels th…
I was reading some other replies that suggested using something to close all tabs and bookmark them automatically and I had the same reluctance as you do because I also group up my tabs. However, this makes me think: what if there was a tree-style-tab extension that let you convert a tree into a bookmark folder? Then I wouldn't feel bad at all about closing half or more of my tabs. This could be optionally combined w…
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Doesn’t that waste a lot of electricity though given all those tabs are loaded? Do you have to buy higher end laptops to accommodate that workflow?
The answer used to be Yes. 32GB RAM was a spec I'd commonly try to get. As the other commenter has indicated, contemporary browsers have decent logic for unloading open tabs from RAM. Likely it's one of the many improvements made after Google Chrome received strong criticism for it's RAM consumption.
This actually makes sense… Why isn’t Mozilla rolling out ad tracking to Firefox for it to fund itself? Oh yeah, they’re already getting all the money they need from Google.
I assume the real answer is that because the moment they did there'd be a thousand forks and nobody would use Mozilla's browser anymore Updates would probably slow down a lot, but I doubt that everyone would stop working on it, and that nobody new would step up to maintain whatever the most popular folks were.
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> I have once been to told to see a doctor or psychiatrist for having a few hundred tabs Yea that's nothing, haha. I currently have 3592 open. Like you mention, research and tab hoarding go hand in hand. Even recreational research: everyone is familiar with the wikipedia spree with its innumerable hyperlinked articles and references, and now you suddenly have 20 additional open tabs. I'll read maybe two of them, but…
I had the problem at some point, that Firefox wouldn't start anymore after an upgrade (at ~7,5k). That's was when I gave up, and fed all tabs to the one-tab extension, which saves them as links and closes the tabs. Nowadays I regularly press its save-and-close-all button, so the number of tabs stays reasonable (less than 200 or so).
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> I have once been to told to see a doctor or psychiatrist for having a few hundred tabs Yea that's nothing, haha. I currently have 3592 open. Like you mention, research and tab hoarding go hand in hand. Even recreational research: everyone is familiar with the wikipedia spree with its innumerable hyperlinked articles and references, and now you suddenly have 20 additional open tabs. I'll read maybe two of them, but…
Fascinating. I have a very internet-research heavy project (writing a nonfiction book), but how do you find a specific tab that you want to go back to. It seems like that would be harder than using bookmarks or simply re-navigating to the resource. Do you end up with a “feel” for where the tab is, similar to how we get used to the contours of our camera role on a smartphone?
But overall I actually think the visual aspect is the reason, its mostly an unavoidable nag saying "DONT FORGET!" Closing tabs sends them into the abyss, unless you precisely remember what you're looking for (for someone wont to ctrl/cmd click hyperlinks, good luck finding those). And I do use session buddy to save and organize contexts (and keeps the tab situation somewhat "sane") but—and similarly with OneTab—those just get sent off to the extension's local db and you forget.
> Do you end up with a “feel” for where the tab is, similar to how we get used to the contours of our camera role on a smartphone?
When I used to only have a few hundred, spread out into different windows, and designated virtual desktops for each meta topic, definitely. It's what I want to get back to.
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I'll try to articulate this as someone who usually has 500-1000 open tabs. Bookmarks are things that meet or surpass a certain threshold of usefulness. My open tabs probably include things that should be bookmarked, but all of that information needs to be screened for what's really worth saving. Clusters of tabs for various trains of thought take time to condense into purified bookmarks. In order for me to have less…
So you don’t use bookmarks because bookmarks seem like they have to be perfectly named/organized? Why not just… not? I.e. a bookmark folder called “chaos”. Seems like it would instantly unlock a more natural UI for the same data, but maybe I’m missing something. Thanks for explaining what you already have, I’ve always been SO confused by people with hundreds of tabs. I hope I wasn’t the only one who read “people eith…
Both open browser tabs and bookmarks get auto-completed by the omnibar in contemporary browsers. One important difference is, after a new browser session is created, those pervious tabs go away, but the bookmarks stay. The "chaos" bookmark method results in more chaotic omnibar auto-complete suggestions over time. Unfortunately, that seems like a worse outcome.