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It is, in a sense, the opposite end of the "autism spectrum". An innate deep understanding of social cues and general empathy.
Magical thinking and crackpot beliefs about being able to read into people’s souls with a single glance? Seems pretty spectrum-y to me. At best.
And thats fine! I do too. But to claim it's impossible just because we are not good at it would be absurd.
You also have tik tok ravers. A generation which built their own culture in isolation in the pandemic now flooding the dance floors not knowing anything about techno culture. For me it's a big part of not wanting to go anywhere anymore. Before, your outfit didn't matter, phones, photos and videos were discouraged. Nowadays these kids dress to impress and point there phones everywhere. They consume the techno culture…
ravers are amazing right now. you guys can act nostalgic about $5 cover charges at farmhouses in the middle of the woods, but that stuff was objectively horrible. smoke filled, counterculture only people, dingy. I love the crowd that comes to these $600 music festivals, they're sexy and maintain good jobs or wealth, good support systems, can talk deeply about many technical topics, second hand smoke is sparse, and th…
> I think its silly to just put Tik Tok as an adjective on everything you don't like because I see that in other fields too. There are certain behaviors it seems some people are doing that are different than the ones you highlighted.
Well, I do because it's the only thing I can say something about. It's not a category I put on everyone I don't like but it's a term that's shared and quite clearly defined in a very narrow discussion about techno and the pandemic. It only partially relates to the overall tik tok consumerism discussion.
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This is very naïve. Berlin had the perfect storm required for this to work: a strong counter culture, post-wall joy, and a lot of cheap old abandoned buildings. It really isn't just something that can happen anywhere, hence why it hasn't...
Many places have abundant abandoned buildings and a strong counter culture. Very few have a Berlin Wall, I'll grant you, but the spark to set this off could come from elsewhere.
It has been interesting to grow up with clubbing and see it go from an underground youth subculture that seemed to radically reinvent itself every year to a crowd of the same people but now middle-aged. I wonder if this is what happened to people who kept going to 80s nights, or if people in their teens and 20s just don't "go out" in the same way any more.
So just like the grunge nights, northern soul all-nighters, lindy-hops and penny socials before them, a cultural form of creative destruction will see this too fade into history to be replaced by whatever expression the new generation finds to express their situation, which is different in every way to the world that birthed Berghain.
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"it wasn't better back then, you were just younger" - unknown internet pundit
I really hate this meme. A lot of things really were better in the past. Website user interfaces are a big example here. Conversely, some other things are much better now; cigarette smoking rates are a big example.
I realise Berghain et al are trying to protect themselves from the riff raff, but enforcing a stupid "techno uniform" and turning away half their potential customers for arbitrary reasons probably doesn't help their business. I went to Berlin earlier this year and didn't even try to get into Berghain because I don't want to waste time queuing only to be turned away. In London we have some excellent clubs that don't c…
Actually, Berghain does it pretty well. Usually the bouncers walk the line and already tell people when they definitely will not get in. This avoids a lot of drama at the door, and people don't have to wait needlessly and can still comfortably go someplace else. Berghain is one of the most famous clubs in the world. It has and cultivates an underground image, which is why people want to go there in the first place. Y…
This in incredibly ironic. What if I like wearimg denim jeans, a smart shirt and brown shoes? That'll be considered not individualist enough and I won't get in?
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Magical thinking and crackpot beliefs about being able to read into people’s souls with a single glance? Seems pretty spectrum-y to me. At best.
"Tell me you have limited social intelligence, without telling me ..." And thats fine! I do too. But to claim it's impossible just because we are not good at it would be absurd.
It’s really a great example of the narcissistic desire for power and control that drives the behavior of a lot of people in the scene.
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"Tell me you have limited social intelligence, without telling me ..." And thats fine! I do too. But to claim it's impossible just because we are not good at it would be absurd.
I’ll happily go out on a limb and say that people who believe they have acquired inerrant powers of scrying because somebody let them work the door somewhere are arrogant at best. It’s really a great example of the narcissistic desire for power and control that drives the behavior of a lot of people in the scene.
And yes, it is possible to quickly assess someones P(an issue) after a career of observing tens of thousands of people and whether or not they were an issue.
These things can both be true.
[And keep in mind a false-positive matters not-one-bit-at-all, whereas a false-negative is (quite literally) an issue.]
Berghain for sure is not struggling, but even if they were, Andrea should know that you'll always have a hard time at the door with two guys sporting the "skinfade + northface jacket" combo.
Hold on, what's this about North Face? I thought German law required Helly Hansen jackets.
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Many places have abundant abandoned buildings and a strong counter culture. Very few have a Berlin Wall, I'll grant you, but the spark to set this off could come from elsewhere.
It could, but it also could not. Don't take it for granted, it might not happen again
Also if you look at my exact wording: I don't say it's going to happen, I say I would not be surprised to see it happen.