Home Assistant 2023.11 • Hacker News Board

Re: Home Assistant 2023.11

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Post by paledot » Sun, Nov 05, 2023, 2:17 PM UTC

emilecantin wrote: post #128

nunez wrote: post #100

I love HA but hate how manufacturers are going all-in on preventing people from integrating their devices into the platform without an alternative. Chamberlain MyQ did this by turning on CloudFlare Super Bot Fight and 429'ing anything that doesn't look like it came from their app. That's fine and reasonable, but I can't even pay to create an OAuth client, even though I am paying for their Tesla integration, and they…

I'm at the point where I vote with my wallet on something like this. I'm in the process of buying a heat pump / HVAC system, and I've been very clear with the salespeople that _local_ Home Assistant support is a must-have requirement. No clouds, no apps, just Home Assistant. If we ask for it, especially at the point of sale, companies will catch on at some point.

I would be surprised if any of them had the first idea what you were talking about, and they probably don't even work for the manufacturer. Even if they do, their feedback is extremely unlikely to make it back to product, and even less likely to be taken into account.

Re: Home Assistant 2023.11

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Post by tbyehl » Mon, Nov 06, 2023, 4:03 AM UTC

404mm wrote: post #160

tbyehl wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MyQ had a HomeKit bridge... which they cancelled [1]. My experience with it was that, aside from eliminating the Internet/cloud dependency, it didn't make the MyQ experience any more reliable overall and I'm much happier with ATHOM's ESPHome-based kit. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/23/23318157/chamberlain-myq-...

I have a Meross garage door opener and it has been rock solid for 2 years. Not a single hiccup or miss. The issue I’d like to solve is my driveway gate. It’s too far from WiFi and I don’t want to run any cables. It’s Homelink and MyQ compatible but that’s about it. I suppose I could take one wireless remote and replace the switch with a HomeKit compatible relay. lol

If it's conceivable that a WiFi signal isn't completely obstructed, Ubiquiti UAP-AC-M + UMA-D antenna.

If not, DIY with a couple LoRa ESP boards.

Re: Home Assistant 2023.11

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Post by nunez » Mon, Nov 06, 2023, 2:34 PM UTC

chromakode wrote: post #130

nunez wrote: post #100

I love HA but hate how manufacturers are going all-in on preventing people from integrating their devices into the platform without an alternative. Chamberlain MyQ did this by turning on CloudFlare Super Bot Fight and 429'ing anything that doesn't look like it came from their app. That's fine and reasonable, but I can't even pay to create an OAuth client, even though I am paying for their Tesla integration, and they…

Re: MyQ, check out ratgdo [1]. It's a lovely little hardware project that wires into Chamberlain/Liftmaster controllers and provides a local WiFi-only interface. It integrates perfectly with HA and requires no soldering or disassembly to install. It's a shame Chamberlain discontinued their homekit bridge, because it shouldn't be necessary to use a cloud integration to trigger a garage door. [1]: https://paulwieland.g…

Update: I landed up getting a Meross. Very easy to set up and works fantastically within HA. I'm going to keep myq since the Tesla integration does add value and $45/year is a very reasonable cost, but if that changes, then myq is gone.

Re: Home Assistant 2023.11

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Post by agloe_dreams » Mon, Nov 06, 2023, 3:05 PM UTC

LeafItAlone wrote: post #173

agloe_dreams wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The bulbs don't directly work with Home Assistant for protocol reasons They are based on the Zigbee networking standard, that's why you had to buy the stick. It is effectively a networking adapter like a wifi usb adapter. That said, you can buy most other Zigbee devices now as well. Ikea has far cheaper Zigbee switches than Hue or almost anyone and you can configure them to also cross control other HA features.

> Ikea has far cheaper Zigbee switches than Hue Not beating the $5 sale price that the parent mentioned. I love the IKEA smart home devices (practically all of the commercial smart devices I have still in use are IKEA). But the size and shape of their US outlets is absurd.

> cheaper Zigbee switches

OP got bulbs for $5.

Re: Home Assistant 2023.11

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Post by tibbon » Wed, Nov 08, 2023, 4:06 PM UTC

fnordpiglet wrote: post #139

tibbon wrote: post #131

The only negative thing I can say about HASS is that getting it running in Kubernetes with a USB Zigbee/Zwave adapter is a real pain. I've got a local cluster and had it working once, but had to rebuild everything for some unrelated reason, and haven't been able to get it consistently working since. There are too many in-built assumptions about how you're running it and the USB access. Documentation assumes that _may…

What benefit would running it in k8s have? I’ve been running it on a bare pi for years without issue and have never once thought I needed abstractions upon abstractions… is this more a “because I can” sort of thing?

Having one way to deploy software is great. If I want to run 10 different home services (Pihole, Minecraft server, Plex, whatever), I'd prefer to not need different ways of updating/backing up/provisioning each.

Ideally K8s w/Flux is pretty great for this, as I can just make a change in SCM and then let it rip. Hardware dies? Drop in a new one and keep going. Backups handled by the larger system, instead of individual computers.

Additionally, my VPN/DNS and other networking setups with CloudFlare zero trust and MetalLB make it really easy to securely access it from anywhere for whatever service I need, with minimal fuss.

But... getting the USB parts working with K8s is so annoying, as their assumptions around using Docker or Containderd are pretty fixed. Obviously I need to set an affinity/requirement of the node having the USB device, but even after that it just doesn't seem happy. I can see the device in HA, but it never connects.